[MuffinFlavored]

I think I've read from a few different sources that the Claude Code $100-$200/mo plans are subsidized so hard that it's basically $2k-$8k/mo in "would-be" equivalent API token usages.

This kind of makes sense in that space while the subsidies (if true) last?

Unrelated, "tokens" feels very like... back-then blockchain to me. All the craze.

[wqaatwt]

Or the API is massively overpriced. What Anthropic/OpenAI are charging for tokens says almost nothing about their actual costs, just what people are willing to pay.

It’s just an obvious example of market segmentation by charging enterprise customers many times more than personal users while selling the same product

[zhubert]

Yeah, rising token costs definitely played into my thinking too. I want builders to be able to use the best models and it seems like they are getting more expensive. But maybe local models will get there?