[roger_]

How about Qwen3.6? What sort of prefill/decode rates?

Edit: 3.6 not 3.7!

[simonw]

So far there aren't any open weight model releases for the Qwen 3.7 family.

[syhol]

> So far

Someone's optimistic

[simonw]

I'm hoping the decision makers at Qwen notice how influential the 3.6 series is while the 3.7 series has had very little attention at all.

(Of course for all I know the 3.7 series is doing incredibly well in China, but I've seen almost no buzz around it from the circles that I inhabit.)

[CamperBob2]

My impression is that with the latest round of high-profile releases, the open-weight "market" is coalescing around two players, DS4 Flash for speed and GLM 5.2 for smarts. Qwen is being left behind to pick up the scraps for the terminally GPU-poor.

We know they have what it takes to fight back, and they know it... so I agree, there's no reason not be optimistic about future Qwen releases. But then I've never really understood what motivates these releases in the first place.

[simonw]

Qwen still have the best models that actually run on a laptop - Gemma 4 is their best competition there.