[fauigerzigerk]

100% of users have legitimate reasons to block internet access for some apps.

If internet access wasn't granted by default, a lot more apps would function without it.

Many other apps wouldn't exist at all, because their only reason to exist is to spy on users.

[tokioyoyo]

Not going to lie, it would be an absolute hell to develop an app that's actually used without getting crash/analytics.

[AlecSchueler]

Sounds like normal development up until ten years ago. Somehow we managed.

[tokioyoyo]

10 years ago we already had the same tools. 15 years ago they were starting up.

If you wanna go further, 20 years ago we didn’t have that much of distribution, users, or differences in software/hardware. Shipping speeds were also much slower.

[kevincox]

We do it. We give the user the option to export debugging information and send it to us.

[tokioyoyo]

Are your users technical people or non-technical? From my personal experience, once you pass certain number of users, most bugs are caught by your own systems through reported telemetry. It’s very rare for non-technicals to report a bug, as it’s easier to close the app and switch to competitor.

[st3fan]

On iOS those are collected and sent to the developer via the OS so you would still get them via Xcode. Sentry would obviously not work.

[throwaway27448]

Surely this could (or should) be facilitated through the app store.

[BergaDev]

That'd just be kicking up another lawsuit for giving app stores too much control