[ben_w]

> Unfortunately, Tesla keeps Autopilot bad because it forces more people to pay for FSD, and in this case they seem to care more about profits than safety.

Not saying you're wrong, but I think "it forces people to pay for FSD" is a poor decision if true.

More likely it creates market confusion (as we see in this thread) about exactly which of the two products that Tesla advertises as things which drive your car for you is the more dangerous one and which is "the good one" (though from their taxis, I think the scare quotes are still justified even then).

I'm also not even sure if they do care about profits (or safety), given Musk's made about as much from selling Tesla shares as the company has made in lifetime profit, before getting shareholder approval for a deal to give him more shares. (Conditionally give, yes, but the nature of it all suggests share price is more important than profit or safety, and if you don't care about such things that makes it much easier for them to sell a million robots or whatever).

[JumpCrisscross]

That the reporting is so tortured sort of shows this works. It’s irrelevant in a broad or legal context. But for the narrow audience of his fans, it carries merit.

[ben_w]

When you say this, do you have in mind that "his fans" are the customers, or the shareholders?

I ask because he has made about as much from the latter as Tesla has made from the former.