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by Moldoteck 38 days ago
No, they don't compete for the same slice of the market, that's silly

Nuclear is more flexible than coal and on par with some gas plants. BWR's are even faster. Your second link about french modulation proves that. Or you can check directly on RTE website

EDF is crying because ren get CFD's and curtailment payments while EDF does not.

The paper you posted is so funny. The author is also the chief editor of the journal the paper was published. He is also one of the founders of DK antinuclear movement which resulted in DK becoming one of the largest coal consumers at that time. His previous paper was subject to correction due to favorably "omitted details". His current paper still assumes for some reason dirt cheap hydrogen firming for renewables. Shall we check the cost of pure H2 firming per Lazard?

Not only DK has worse emissions than France - it also managed to piss off Norway and Sweden https://montelnews.com/news/0138d712-3afd-4590-883e-4b9221fd...

https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/sweden-pauses-plans-...

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And what happens to a nuclear plant that is essentially only fixed costs when their capacity factor craters due to renewable competition?

Followed by attacking the author rather than the context, followed by a "what about".

You truly lost the plot here. You do realize that right?

Why are you so afraid of renewables and storage?

It happens the same as with any other project, even renewables.

It's not an attack on the author. What I've written can be easily verified. The author IS the chief editor of the journal the paper was published in. The author is one of the founding members of DK antinuclear movement. His previous paper was subject to correction due to details that were omitted which skewed the final results. The paper does assume dirt cheap H2 firming which is not bounded to reality in any sense whatsoever. Nuclear ban in DK DID led to it becoming one of the largest coal consumers at that time.

You don't need to ask this stupid question at each post. It'll not change the simple fact that DK and DE have far worse emissions than France and Sweden. It'll not change the fact Germany plans gas expansion for firming renewables.

Maybe I should ask you the question why are you so afraid of nuclear combined with renewables when history proved this pathway gives the best results? I can't think of anything more than blind hate

You mean like this Australian coal plant forced to become a peaker or be decomissioned?

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-10-13/australian-coal-plant...

Yes. That is the issue. How do you suggest the nuclear plants will survive in such an environment when they are already today, early in the renewable disruption, facing headwinds?

Then more just attacking the author. Then trying to discredit this paper by an old one, and you clearly haven't read the criticism.

The criticism said:

1. Assuming new built nuclear power is cheap and fast to build then you are wrong!!!!

But you never read further than the headline did you?

Then you go on to mindless complaining. Yes, it would have been amazing if Denmark and Germany built nuclear power half a century ago and decarbonized their grids.

But we live in 2026 and there's no point crying over spilled milk.

> nuclear combined with renewables when history proved this pathway gives the best results?

Which is revionist history. As shown by the French nuclear plants struggling to cope with an increasingly renewable grid. Same with the Swedish ones where 4 reactors has shut down due to market conditions in recent years. They were hemorrhaging money.

You are looking at an incredibly short period of time where half a century old paid off plants are still around and renewables haven't completely disrupted the French grid yet.

Please do explain how you would fit a nuclear plant into this grid mix:

https://explore.openelectricity.org.au/energy/sa1/?range=7d&...

That is where all grids globally are headed in less than 10 years time. Before a single nuclear projected started today is completed.

Why are you so afraid of renewables and storage? Is your income dependent on the nuclear industry?