[aetherspawn]

Ok, 3 things.

1) I’ve put enough kms on FSD - it’s taken me across Australia a few times, probably 10,000kms in total - to know that it isn’t going to drive into a house.

2) Even if FSD is enabled, there’s loads of things you can do to create an accident like press the brakes or accelerator pedals, which doesn’t necessarily disengage FSD right away, so let’s just wait for the telemetry to get released.

3) Regardless of who was controlling it, why did this guy let his car jump the kerb and go through a house? Why was he going fast enough?

Sad for all involved.

Edit: my experience is HW4 by the way.

[0cf8612b2e1e]

“Wait for the telemetry”. Like that case where it took years and reverse engineering to pull the footage that Tesla claimed did not exist?

Surely, we can trust Tesla will be providing all relevant information to the authorities without delay.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2025/08/29/tesla-a...

[paulryanrogers]

> 1) I’ve put enough kms on FSD to know that it isn’t going to drive into a house.

Is it possible FSD on this vehicle was a different version? Can't FSD change from one drive to the next, based on software updates or even external conditions?

Perhaps you drove in a different region with differing conditions?

> 3) Regardless of who was controlling it, why did this guy let his car jump the kerb and go through a house? Why was he going fast enough?

Why is it called "Full Self Driving" if the person behind the wheel must control (or even just monitor) the speed?

[aetherspawn]

That’s exactly the thing. We’re on FSD 13 and America is on FSD 14, we’re always about a year behind. Yours is significantly better than ours (being RHD market), but ours still wouldn’t drive through a house.

[erentz]

You’re extremely confident about this just based on your experience of it not happening to you. It’s good that it hasn’t driven you into a house but that doesn’t mean it can’t fail in a way that does drive someone else into a house.

[aetherspawn]

Well, I’ve seen it very confidently and correctly navigate rural unmarked roads, and drive around rocks and logs across the road and things like this. I find it hard to believe it would drive through a huge stationary object like a house, which I imagine is definitely in the training data.

I guess I’m not saying it’s impossible, but I think at this stage it’s improbable.

[budsniffer952]

The fact that you are saying "but houses are in the training data!" demonstrates your naivete.

Do you think there's some magic going on here?

[jcgrillo]

The computer does not see things like you see things ;)

[IncreasePosts]

I believe how good your FSD is also depends on how new your Tesla is because older ones are underpowered and maybe use an underpowered vision model

[FireBeyond]

> Perhaps you drove in a different region with differing conditions?

Agreed.

He's driven it "across Australia". Which means long straight highways for hundreds and hundreds of miles at a time (then recharge, then do long straight highway for hundreds and hundreds of miles), and often fairly lightly trafficked:

https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Perth,+Western+Australia,+Au...

Like... absolutely shocking that FSD performs decently on well maintained, largely straight highway in generally clear desert conditions. Surely this is indicative of its behavior everywhere else! /s

[aetherspawn]

Haha. Driving through Sydney is way worse than Los Angeles. We don’t all live out in the sticks with snakes in our boots.

[FireBeyond]

I would agree, and know well, though I lived in Melbourne for two decades. But still, "driving across Australia" doesn't involve a lot of time spent in the Sydney (or Melbourne) CBDs.

[chaostheory]

> Regardless of who was controlling it, why did this guy let his car jump the kerb and go through a house? Why was he going fast enough?

There are decades worth of man-machines UX research to prove this: the more you lean on automated systems to perform a manual task, like specific vehicle operations, the more your reaction time and relefexes for that specific motor skill will suffer.

Non-level 4 driver assistance tech should only be used for helping prevent accidents and not pretend to be actual full self driving

[toasty228]

"I coded like 500 line of C, I know for a fact segfaults cannot happen"

That's how you sound

[water-data-dude]

"I haven't encountered a rare edge case, therefor the rare edge case must not exist"

[sumeno]

"I've driven drunk enough times to know I'd never cause an accident"