[KPGv2]

It's interesting that we lunge at ballet so much faster for this danger but everyone is resisting with all their might to criticize soccer, which causes micro-CTEs unless the league bans headers. It's made me wonder if it's some kind of paternalistic misogyny. We must protect the girls, but the boys can fuck off and die. Or, alternatively, let's tear down the girls' arts, but boys sports must be untouched.

[dghlsakjg]

Do we?

Never heard of this ballet thing til now. Have heard plenty of rumblings about headers in youth soccer. For both boys and girls.

Male dancers and female athletes exist…

[krapp]

I think it's more that the male-dominant sports are billion dollar industries driven by deep-seated cultures of masculinity that view safety as weakness, and spectatorship that wants to see violence. No one watches ballet wanting to hear the sound of the dancers' skulls colliding.

[wahern]

They do watch for the en pointe, which is beautiful precisely because it's not something we expect bodies to be able to do. And the pain and injury risk also, I think, adds to the effect. I don't think it's all that different from what people experience seeing heads or bodies getting slammed, except en pointe is feminine coded (graceful) whereas slamming is masculine coded (brutish). Similarly, silent, hidden pain (feminine) versus pain as spectacle (masculine).

[jrflowers]

“This smacks of misogyny!” I say as I cross out “sports where players regularly sustain CTE-causing injuries” and write “boys”

https://www.sfchronicle.com/sports/article/cte-concussion-wo...

[dpark]

“I’m so enlightened I forgot women play soccer” is definitely a weird take.

[KPGv2]

They're not the stars, and you know it. I certainly am well aware, as my daughters both play it at a high level. The rules are created by men for men, and the women's game just happens to use the same ones. (More or less.) Also, let's not kid ourselves about the overwhelming cultural assumption that women who play soccer are mannish, lesbian, etc.

Not really the gotcha you thought it was :D

[alexashka]

There is no 'we'. There are different values that value different things.

Slave values = sacrificing yourself is noble and good.

Aristocracy values = being born an aristocrat is noble and good.

Trader values = enriching oneself is noble and good.

Religious fundamentalist values = following the one and only book is good.

Little girl/consumer values = my emotions are good.

Etc.

Slave and religious values are being replaced by trader and little girl/consumer values.

Boys embody slave or trader values. Girls embody little girl/consumer values.

Boys go to war, girls are little princesses. Ballet/women's pro sports are a niche for the few women who embody slave values. Most embody little girl/consumer values.

[lstodd]

Okay, now attack boxing.

[bobthepanda]

If anything, we’re reversing progress on this front, given we just had a UFC match on the front lawn of the White House.

[mhb]

Wait till you hear about an insane game called (US) football!