[dryarzeg]

The only (probably) good thing here is that one can at least try to apply Russian experience at circumventing the censorship, where it's currently way more severe, up to the point when entire companies have their workflows disrupted because remote workers can't connect through the VPN (which is blocked). Maybe that will help.

[Andrew_nenakhov]

You see, the problem is that all exit points of our VPNs are in Europe. These too can be banned quite easily. Where to will we run next, given that this cancer tends to spread?

[dryarzeg]

Change the protocols, I guess? Move to some kind of self-hosted or community-run infrastructure? Because to block all of that (EDIT: to block that reliably, I mean), you will have to block the entire EU network sector, and we're likely not in "V for Vendetta" or full-blown 1984 scenario for this to be possible.

[alexjameson]

Let me tell you how it has been in Russia during last 15 years. WE saw targeted blocks that apply after cease and desist letters. Later they learned to block outgoing OpenVPN and wireguard for everybody except firms who applied to a special registry. Then they learned to cut Vless and Trojan and blocked all sites behind freaking Cloudflare due to ECH v3.0 enforced. Here also go proxies (specifically for Telegram'm MTProto) and other stuff like Quic.

The point is if they start — they can proceed way further than you can imagine now.

[malfist]

Literally, tor.

[dryarzeg]

Which will get blocked and go down, like, in no time. That's literally what happened in Russia - Tor is mostly unusable, you can't even bootstrap properly without some "tricks", so to speak.

[oceanplexian]

One solution is that United States radically supports free speech and provides Starlink access to Europeans as a humanitarian act.

It would be similar to Radio Free Europe which was broadcast to the former Soviet States.

[dryarzeg]

> United States radically supports free speech

Sounds like some kind of utopia to me, given the current circumstances /s

[CamperBob2]

Run to the Kremlin, with torches in your hands.

[Andrew_nenakhov]

Yeah right, that worked out for Iranians quite well all these times.

[bryan_w]

Isn't putin begging y'all to get in tanks for Ukraine? Just find a like minded group of recruits and turn the tanks around

[subscribed]

You seriously think the government has a clear, honest reasons, as stated?

Companies will be exempt (with remote employees having to identify linking their IP and computer's fingerprint with their real identity), and the next step, after using the law to silencing dissent, will be penalisation.

[dryarzeg]

> You seriously think the government has a clear, honest reasons, as stated?

What made you think that I think so?

[subscribed]

I inferred this from the attempt at looking at the positive outcomes of that.

[dryarzeg]

Then I should assume that your "inference" ignores common sense, because nowhere in my comments was I praising some governments, either Russian or European, for their action. I merely pointed out that now, probably, some people from Europe may try to apply Russian experience at circumventing censorship, bans and "network blockades". That's a good thing in the context of this whole situation, because you don't have to figure everything out on your own, from the ground up - you already have some practical examples, researches, and, what's more important - allies. Maybe I'm dramatizing a bit here, but the way was already paved out - you just have to follow the path.

Now could you, please, show to me where exactly was I saying something positive about governments?

From my personal point of view and from my own experience, you have to look for positives if it's possible. The fact that you're still alive is already a positive, even if you're underground taking cover from bombshells and thinking that you may die tomorrow. If you're not looking for positive, you will loose your will to live and, eventually, you will die. Maybe that's making me look too optimistic, but for me that's literally the matter of survival. Sorry if my position was not clear from the beginning.