[dghlsakjg]

The end result will be the same. If you face a 10k liability for serving the wrong customer, you end up needing to ID your customers.

If the government isn't going to provide that service you end up with private companies verifying identity and the data security issues that entails.

If you want to shift the responsibility of protecting children away from parents, then you end up in a situation where third parties need to be able to differentiate between a child and an adult. I haven't yet seen a proposal that doesn't entail someone - government or private enterprise - getting access to identifiable information.

Of course, you could have something like a signed certificate, so the identity verifier doesn't see who you are patronizing, and the identity seeking business only gets to see your age, but it still has privacy issues.

[inigyou]

> . I haven't yet seen a proposal that doesn't entail someone - government or private enterprise - getting access to identifiable information

California's Digital Age Assurance Act

[dghlsakjg]

That isn’t age verification. It’s an api for reporting unverified age data.

It’s basically parental controls standardized.

[KaiserPro]

> you end up needing to ID your customers.

You've needed to do that for at least ten years. Mobile internet either requires a contract, or an ID check before you get a sim (pay and go)

Anyone providing internets is liable for what the users are doing. The way you got out of that is responding to legal requests. (originally mostly copyright)

This is the frustrating thing, we have effective and relatively uncontroversial age gated network (mobile data) already. and it worked.

but now they've done and fucked it up with OSA.

[als0]

I don’t think that would have worked. Parents buy phones for their kids since the kids can’t buy them. What would the choices be? Give them a phone or not give them a phone. I don’t think society is ready for that kind of choice anymore.

[KaiserPro]

But its already the case now! As in if you buy an sim now, it comes with filtered internet by default. its been like that for years

You have to phone them up/log in and request the block to be removed.

[orthoxerox]

Or give them an age-locked phone that tells the websites it belongs to a minor.