[LowLevelMahn]

Playable DOS version available

First step was the full reverse to assembler, second step is to convert the assembler to binary equal compiled C code, all this still on DOS until no assembler code is left, then the porting to Linux,Windows will start

Reversing tends to bring in new bugs and its not easy to find all bugs in such old and reversed code - but so far everything seems to work

try finding open bugs if you got version 451.03 of F-15 around combined with Dosbox or a real DOS

find latest DOS release here: https://github.com/neuviemeporte/f15se2-re/releases

the f15_se2-*.zip file contains the replacement executables for the DOS game

The airforce needs YOU!

[snerbles]

USAF veteran here. I grew up on F-15 Strike Eagle II, and unfortunately my copy has long since degraded. I am elated to see this project.

I do have one teeny, tiny, personal pedantic grumble that is sure to bring other the branches out of the woodwork to point out how much I love chairs.

Air Force. Two words. Thanks.

[ixp_ninja]

Fixed (might need a Shift-Ctrl-R reload). Apologies, English is not my first language.

[snerbles]

No worries, in some languages it is indeed one word - like Luftwaffe.

I've seen many native English speakers routinely bang out "airforce", so it's not just an ESL thing.

[yepyoukno]

Nice work!

I’m not sure you should beat yourself up too much for a Linix* port, emulators are so well supported and ubiquitous, if it works there (not everything does), call it a win!

I use Lutris (https://lutris.net/) for its ease of use.

I can see your a “low level mahn” and this may be more of a quest for you than playing a cool retro game.

Any which way, GREAT WORK!!!!

[LowLevelMahn]

its mostly the combined work of AJenbo, neuviemeporte and others - my part is very small, fixing some compilation problems with newer compilers and spreading the news

C source needs to get compiled on every platform reachable - that is a must :)

[skerit]

I'm currently reverse engineering a few games too. It's quite easy with AI now. But I'm worried about the legality of it all. Any thoughts on this?

[xp84]

Somehow I’m not that concerned. I haven’t heard of any company but Nintendo trying to assert rights to 1980s game IP, and that’s because they’re still selling those literal ROMs as part of a subscription service.

Would I port such a game and then sell it? No, because that kind of puts a target on your back. Keeping it open source and also noncommercial, I don’t think it’s ever gonna matter.

(Obligatory I’m not a lawyer disclaimer - this is a vibes based comment not legal advice. Obviously copyright is nearly infinite, in theory)

[rhplus]

Images, music, video, and text would all be under copyright, while characters and logos may be registered trademarks.

[skerit]

Oh yes, of course. I was talking about reverse engineering the code only. Requiring the official assets is a no-brainer.

[derac]

Largely it is legal, but it's complicated. https://www.eff.org/issues/coders/reverse-engineering-faq

[habagav]

You could do “clean room engineering” approach where the reversing agent generates a specification from its findings, and then have a separate agent reimplement the code without seeing the original binaries/code.

You’d just have to make sure the specification doesn’t include actual source snippets (the AI will try this if you don’t specify). Pseudo code would be sufficient I guess where necessary.

[alberto-m]

Unless you develop your AI agent from scratch or you clone a never-released game, it would be extremely easy for the rightholders to claim that both agents have most certainly ingested the binary during their training phase, since it's well known that the hyperscalers have pirated everything that could be pirated to train their LLMs. Which is why malus.sh is a parody, not a real service.

One should be honest about what one builds. The F-15 project does that: the aim is the reconstruction of the original game, down to the opcodes; on the other hands it requires the user to provide the original game assets.

[skerit]

> it would be extremely easy for the rightholders to claim that both agents have most certainly ingested the binary during their training phase

Ingested the binary?

[habagav]

If they try to claim that then they need proof, right? Good luck getting that.

[luckydata]

Just no, this isn't a thing at all.

[skerit]

Yeah, that approach makes the most sense.