[SpicyLemonZest]

You don't think most Americans would say, if you asked them about the issue, that the Iranian regime is bad and oppressive? I don't think this has anything to do with whitewashing or escaping responsibility for war crimes; obviously we're getting beyond the level of detail most Americans would know, but I personally find it quite easy to believe that both Ahmad Vahidi and Pete Hegseth should be arrested and sent to the Hague.

[bijowo1676]

do Americans care enough about Iran, to murder 160 innocent girls ??

there are many ways to phrase a question and make it seem like very low stakes, while it causes actual human lives on the other end of the globe

[SpicyLemonZest]

No, they don't. Perhaps that's where the confusion lies? Americans mostly did not want to bomb Iran in the first place, which is why their representatives in Congress didn't agree to; the regime in the White House just issued illegal orders to start bombing without Congressional authorization. Even had Hegseth not murdered those schoolgirls, the war would still have been illegal, and I would still be calling (perhaps a bit less vehemently) for him to go to prison over it.

[dylan604]

The GOP in Congress on multiple occasions voted down restrictions on Trump's activities in Iran. So there's plenty of representatives that do agree with Trump's plan. This isn't anywhere near as clear cut as you're implying.

[SpicyLemonZest]

If they agreed with Trump's plan they would pass a bill affirmatively authorizing it. Many would, of course, but I'm confident many others don't actually agree and simply fear Trump's revenge if they're seen actively opposing him. (Which does not excuse them, I should emphasize, history will record their shameful cowardice.)

[dylan604]

I don't think this is accurate. If you agree with what is already in motion, you do not need to take any action for it to continue. You need to take action if you disagree in order to get it to stop.

[bijowo1676]

This is empty rhetoric, WW2 was the last war where Congress officially declared war. Vietbam, Iraq, GWOT wars had some form of congress authorization, but the rest of the wars never had any authorization

America been droning and murdering people around the globe with impunity, for example Cambodia bombing which literally put Pol Pot and Khmer Rouge in power and led to genocide. The list of US war crimes is simply too big and I have zero tolerance for whitewashing or excusing this behavior

[SpicyLemonZest]

Your "zero tolerance" attitude is preventing you from understanding that I agree with you. I'm not going to talk to you any further, but I would encourage you to reflect on whether your reflexive hostility here has been an enjoyable or productive use of your time.

[JumpCrisscross]

Yeah, this is an amusing but incredibly stupid thread.