[cmrdporcupine]

Here in Ontario they "banned" phones in class/school and the teens just ignore it and the teachers are unable/scared to enforce it. As parents we've tried over and over with both our kids to lay down the law -- including taking phones away, consequences etc -- but the attitude is intense with both them and their peers and enforcement becomes very difficult once they're out of "child account" parental control range.

It's a shitty time to be a parent of a teen.

[kevin_thibedeau]

Canadian schools operate under the principle of in loco parentis. Your administrators are just unwilling to do their jobs. If they laid down strict policies of zero tolerance and consequences for offenders that inconvenience the parents there would be compliance. Any parent not on board with such policies can send their kids elsewhere.

[tacomagick]

How about if we target the social media apps for their predatory algorithms?

[cmrdporcupine]

That's precisely what needs to happen.

That said, my youngest just reads gaming wikis and hangs out on Discords for roguelike video games and this somehow consumes 900% of their attention span.

[tacomagick]

I'd say that's one of the best ways to spend time. It's okay to have a hobby even if it's just rougelike games. Much better than doomscrolling on Tiktok in every way.

[cmrdporcupine]

Not when it takes precedence over... doing your math homework, touching grass, communicating with a real flesh and blood friend (or parent/sibling), showering...

[tacomagick]

That's wildly putting things off track. I meant spend time as in free time. I assumed and took for granted things such as showering or doing homework was already done and dusted. Other than that I think students do see each other at school every day anyway so communication is not as desperate as one might think.

[chadgpt3]

Discords for xyz are as much universal hangout spaces as they are about xyz

[Moldoteck]

the next movement would be blocking LTE/5G during courses. No social media = dumb phone

[cmrdporcupine]

they don't seem to have the courage to do it. they don't even bother closing down the school wifi for a lot of stuff.

there's also parent who would boohoo about not being able to contact their kids all hours of the day

[derwiki]

“Boohoo” is fine, but I think the reality is one of a) come to the school and scream at someone b) or threaten violence or c) a lawsuit.