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by paulryanrogers 2 days ago
Are they? They may come out stronger than before in the long term. Yet in the short term they've lost iconic and experienced leaders, their navy, and plenty of other military assets.

I suppose they may be grateful to have an enemy uniting their people. Though it's not like they lost control of the opposition, even if they've had to kill a few thousand at a time.

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> Yet in the short term they've lost iconic and experienced leaders, their navy, and plenty of other military assets.

They lost old hardware and aging leaders (some were already dying). Now, replaced with fresh and energetic leadership and pipeline for modern tech.

No, they lost their state of the art missile and drone factories as well as all of their nuclear facilities. Not to mention their navy and Air Force…

I’m pretty sure the “fresh and energetic leadership” won’t enjoy their positions if hostilities resume, which seems likely.

And we’re basically paying for the upgrades…
Oil prices are up, they're getting transiting fees now, as well, and other gulf states were weakened by the conflict.

Assume the leadership of both Iran and the US are kleptocrats who both have motivations to have oil prices high and people dependent on them and it all makes a lot more sense.

The Iranian people, that's a different story.

> Yet in the short term they've lost iconic and experienced leaders

Not an issue for those promoted into their places!

There is still a moderate faction in Iran that the IRGC needs an excuse to execute.

Their stranglehold on power is in no small way influenced by having an enemy.

America bringing destruction and failing to bring freedom from their current tyranny has doubtfully bought us many more friends in Iran.

Doubtful, wishful thinking, America should’ve left well enough alone in 1953. We got rid of a president who was elected, who wanted to nationalize the oil industry within Iran, and when the puppet was installed the Shah he kept it nationalized anyway and for America, the Middle East became a quagmire and still is billions wasted.

Too bad the Pan America highway or a Pan-American Railway is but a dream the Chinese probably will get that high speed rail all the way to Europe once Russia and the Ukraine stop fighting, I might add if it wasn’t for the war. There’s a good possibility. It would already be done by now.

Mosaddegh was appointed by the Shah and Iran was very far from a functioning democracy with fair elections in 1953.
There was a lot more going on in Iran than just American meddling. They were modernizing very fast and there became a huge class divide between the urban modern upper middle class and the very traditional rural populations.
That old guy already on deathbed from cancer. He basically given death bonus to the country, immortalized like George Washington of Iran. Thank you. Trump! Greatest American and Iranian and world president!