[everyone]

Also..

* USA (or Israel really) started this war on their own terms at a time of their choosing. But they werent prepared at all.

* Incredibly valuable things like THAAD radars (like $1B per unit) were taken out by $1000 drones.. We've all seen the war in Ukraine, we all know Iran makes Shahed drones. US seemed to be completely unprepared for this.

* US was using $1M pac 3 patriot missiles to shoot down $1000 drones, utterly failing the shot exchange problem. Also US has run down its stockpiles of many missiles to 50% or less. It will take 3 or 4 years to return many items to acceptable levels, and wont be able sell any either, leaving customers seeking alternatives.

* Clear miscoordination and lack of clarity between US and allies. Like no-one really knew what was happening or why, leading to stuff like the ghost of Kuwait.

Classic trump regieme action. No-one competent in the room. Just impulsively doing random shit each day with no strategy or understanding.

[paulryanrogers]

> Classic trump regieme action. No-one competent in the room. Just impulsively doing random shit each day with no strategy or understanding.

It has echoes of LBJ and later Nixon trying to control a massive conflict from thousands of miles a way, based mostly on vibes.

[antod]

Vibes? There's a fallacy named after McNamara trying to break it down to numerical metrics. Vibes probably would've served them better.

I think they had much more intelligence and competence back then, even if they were wrong. Now it's stupidity and incompetence on top of being wrong.