[colechristensen]

>Companies do not hire juniors as some long tern play to develop them into good engineers

Working for companies, as a manager, I have. I have said to my management that is what my intention was, and subsequently hired people for exactly that.

[wseqyrku]

The thing is when you're starting out this is probably what you have in mind for each job you apply. But that only happens one out of ten.