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by pfdietz 1 day ago
I wonder if this process would work if the water were replaced with milk. Milk would degrade at high temperature, but this (at least in bulk) is at room temperature.
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You think people who drink espresso would be ok with drinking milk? Also a majority of humans are lactose intolerant.
Not in general, but I think some people would be ok, and that's all that's needed for that question to be interesting.
The majority of people that drink espresso drink it with milk.
Sometimes I wish HN had flags of where the person is living next to the username or something. This is obviously true for some/many places in the world, but also probably sacrilegious to even think out loud in others.

FWIW, once you poor milk into your espresso, it stops being an espresso, and depending on the coffee/milk ratio (and milk preparation), you know have a Cortado, Cappuccino, or a number of other versions.

So ultimately: no, no one drinks espresso with milk, it's not a thing, they start with an espresso, then turn it into a different espresso-based coffee drink :)

The majority of Americans that drink espresso drink it with milk.
Not only Americans. In my home country of Spain espresso with milk is pretty much the default coffee at bars ("café con leche").
Really? The Last time I was in an American office, there didn't seem to be any milk around. They had an unrefrigerated bottle of "creamer" next to the coffee machine, but I was too scared to try it. I'm still not sure what it is, or how I'm supposed to use it.
Creamer is a liquid made with oil and sweetener that approximates the taste and mouthfeel of milk and sugar. Or really a flavored syrup, not sugar. They often have hazelnut or vanilla flavoring added. You would use it by pouring it in your coffee, at about a 1:1 ratio with how you would use milk.

I'm surprised you associated it with espresso. Creamer and drip coffee machines go together. Milk and espresso machines go together. I've seem drip coffee machines with real milk, but I've never seen an espresso machine with just creamer.

It tends to exist primarily in office environments, because it can stand not to be refrigerated and was the first lactose-free option. Therefore it was easy to buy one bottle and solve the problem of "stuff to add to coffee".

It was a "Keurig", and I had to put a pod in it and wait a few seconds. Is that not espresso?

I make espresso at home by grinding/tamping it myself so I admittedly don't know much about the pod version or whether that still counts as espresso.

Office coffee is not what people drink for pleasure -- it's a caffeine delivery device. If you go to a coffeehouse in the US you'll find that people often order drinks called Lattes which is espresso and steamed milk. And the word is Italian like espresso itself, so I think this isn't some weird Americanism but pretty traditional.
I did go to an American coffee house while I was there. It was called something like "Phil's" and there were no lattes to be had.
Odd - when I'm at a cafe, I'm almost always asked if "whole milk" is ok. It work, we have fat free, 2%, and creamer...
It’s intravenous. You should try it!
Have you lost your mind 8)

Espresso is so named because you "express" the brew from the beans and you do that with water because water is pretty neutral in flavour, is not poisonous and has quite a few other properties that we have evolved to exploit or live with.

Milk is a weird liquid associated with mammals nursing infants. We humans have evolved to be somewhat lactose tolerant post infancy which is rare in animalia (1)

Given that we are using the Italian word - espresso - then let's use their definition. If you add milk then you have a latte or a cappuccino or an americano con latte, a flat white or whatever.

Real weirdos try to milk oats. I've tried but I can't find their teats.

1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lactase_persistence

a latte?

as in, a glass of just milk?

If we are using italian definitions, "latte" is just a glass of milk.
....surely you must have heard of macchiato(espresso with a dash of foamed milk) at some point in your life?

And lactose free milk is a thing, for those of us who can't have lactose anymore.

Depends on where you live.
Lol.