[tennfown]

> Embedded systems? Like sim cards?

Serious question: I remember the old installer, six billion devices or whatever. I’ve heard about Java ME, old set-top boxes and DVD players, etc.

But how much of that is active today. I can’t say I’ve ever seen a job listing for an embedded Java developer or even Java ME in my entire career. Are people actually still using it?

[bdamm]

Actually yes. Pretty much most credit cards are in fact JavaCards.

Weird but true, and quite obscure.

[cenamus]

Yeah I didn't mean it as praise for Java (SE, ME, or whatever), but I don't think you're better off finding embedded WebAssembly jobs

[wffurr]

https://github.com/bytecodealliance/wasm-micro-runtime https://github.com/WebAssembly/wabt/blob/main/wasm2c/README....

ISTR Siemens uses wasm2c to compile Wasm for a bunch of embedded devices runninng Zephyr RTOS.

[cenamus]

Fair point, but translating to C is almost cheating ;)

[wffurr]

Sure, but it's a trick not available to most JVM languages.