[mirabilis]

I’m really not liking the prospective combination of a bunch of independently managed collections of driver’s license scans with no especial guarantee of security across the disparate spread of vendors struggling to remain compliant with layered sets of state and country based laws + the increasing ease of identity theft or of at least “grandma, please send me bail money, I’ll even call you over Facetime and prove it’s really me” types of deepfake scams that can be performed with the assistance of AI.

[Aurornis]

We really need to start discussing these laws by what they’re requiring. Too many people see “law bans kids from social media” and get excited because they think kids shouldn’t use social media, but they don’t read far enough into the details to see that the law actually requires sites to ID check all users to accomplish the stated goal.

Even the phrase “social media site” is a problem for these conversations because a lot of people don’t consider themselves as using social media. Yet we’re seeing laws start to cover YouTube and Reddit and companies like Discord are self-imposing age checks for features through an ID gating process. Once people start realizing that these laws are going to have broad impacts to internet sites they use, they will become much less popular.

[inigyou]

That's why we need to push for solutions that preserve privacy while also reducing child predation. I've always thought the California solution was quite good, but HN disagrees. Here's what you need for a complete compliant implementation of the California law (plus the provision that only root can change account birth dates): https://monolith-project.org/blog/age-verification/