[dbecker]

All of this just begs the question of how good these guys are.

Yes, you can find a job on your own. But not all jobs are the same. Maybe they'll find you a better job.

Yes, you can learn on your own. But I don't think there's any question that a good teacher can help you learn faster.

gSchool is new. So it's too early to find hard evidence either way about the quality of jobs you'll get, etc. But if they give you the right teacher, education can be a good investment.

[steveklabnik]

gSchool is run by Jumpstart Lab (my employer), who also did Hungry Academy for LivingSocial a while back. I wasn't directly involved in teaching HA, but I did do evaluations of the students from time to time, and they were all competent developers.

What they weren't was super quick to resolve errors. That can only really come from experience. They'd be able to figure out if something went wrong, but whereas I (#50 on the Rails contributors list) would know instantly what was wrong, it'd take them some time. That's to be expected from new devs, though, no way around that but time.

[thisiswei]

steve,will you be teaching this time?

[steveklabnik]

We're figuring it out. At the very least, I will be swinging by from time to time to teach periodically, but I will probably not be there full-time.

[lorangb]

The guys at gSchool believe strongly that truly learning everything online is really hard. The instructors are world class - IMO that will make all the difference.

[intellegacy]

I've never heard of gSchool. Maybe I'm out of the loop, but what evidence is there that the instructors are world class?

Also, there are people who have learned everything online. They are out there - thousands- heck- tens of thousands of them on the web. Granted, maybe gSchool will help educate some people who can't learn themselves. To those people the 20k will be worth it.

[jthree]

Nothing will speak more clearly than the results, so I can understand some skepticism.

I'm the lead instructor for gSchool, Jeff Casimir. I've been teaching Ruby since 2005 and started Jumpstart Lab in 2009. I have both more classroom experience (total) and more hours spent teaching these technologies than anyone in the world.

I wish there were dozens or hundreds of people learning these skills by themselves on the web, but it's just not happening fast enough. The talent shortage is the #1 problem facing most small software businesses, and there's no fix in sight. This is just our little contribution.

[thisiswei]

agree!!!

[steveklabnik]

gSchool is run by Jumpstart Lab (my employer), and we did Hungry Academy for LivingSocial a few months ago. Our client list includes Nasa, Boeing, Sony, BlueBox, LivingSocial, Accenture, and a host of other companies.

I personally am #50 on the Rails Contributors list all-time, so I know a thing or two about Rails. ;).

> To those people the 20k will be worth it.

While there are many people who are able to learn online, there are many that are not. Also, our schedule is just a tad more intense than most autodidacts go for. And the money isn't worth it just for money: it's for cred. I once had a funded startup, and the fact that we went through a YC-like program opened many doors, simply due to social proof. Those who teach themselves have to gain this proof some other way.