[petesergeant]

> Vibe-coded software is simply not good

It doesn't fucking matter to the success of a business.

I spent much of my early career unfucking large codebases that had been thrown together by sysadmins or teenagers or HTML guys who knew a bit of Perl on which an enterprising person had built very, very successful businesses. The software got fixed by pros long after profitability when it started to matter.

There are very few businesses where the quality of the software makes any real difference. What matters is execution, marketing, commercialization, but programmers see every business problem as a technical problem requiring technical excellence, because they're gigantic hammers.

[Hendrikto]

This is the attitude that gives us daily data breaches.

[petesergeant]

It is not an attitude, it is a clear statement of fact. That you don't like it is just shouting at clouds.

[slopinthebag]

I think it does matter. Bad software can make peoples lives worse, especially when they depend on it. Really bad software can kill people. Maybe it doesn't matter to the bottom line of a business, but that's a particularly low bar to meet.

Take this article for example

https://ericwbailey.website/published/modern-health-framewor...

Someone in a genuine health crisis seeking help but can't receive it could have deadly consequences. It doesn't matter to the business, but it does matter to people. Life is messy and complex, and if our software doesn't work correctly it does add to the suffering of others. Maybe it pushes some people past the point of no return. There are consequences to what we do, good or bad.

This is what I fear most about the rise of vibe coding. Businesses profit, people get hurt, and the incentives are all wrong.

[badgersnake]

It matters when all your data ends up on pastebin.