[sschueller]

Lebanon being part of the deal requirement by Iran is a brilliant tactical move. It tests how serious the US is in keeping up their end of the deal and it causes severe infighting internally in the US. Iran managed to cause conflict between two allies.

[jjgreen]

Quite right. Prediction: Iran suspends talks (but keeps Hormuz open) whenever Israel attacks, Israel can't help itself, it keeps attacking, so in 60 days, no substantive discussions have occurred. So what does the US do then?

[pseudohadamard]

I saw it more the other way round: Netanyahu has been given a magic switch to sabotage the deal whenever he feels like it, and given that he wants to destroy Iran no matter what the cost...

[Jamesbeam]

It's even better long term strategically for Iran.

They now know they can close the straight whenever they please and the mightiest military in the world is not able to open it back up.

The straight and the confidence in their ability to survive complete air dominance by two of the most sophisticated military forces in the world is Irans new A-Bomb.

Which is a complete disaster for Israel.

Israelis never need to forget two things before the next election, the Oct 7th atrocities were carried out by Hamas, and everyone who participated deserves to be hunted and killed with the same brutality they murdered and raped elderly and children with, but equally important, it was the Israeli PM who allowed this to happen by his inflated ego, creating an "impenetrable" high tech border with sensors and outposts that were beaten by a few caterpillars and hanggliders.

For Bibi not going to jail he has to keep his forever wars up so the people of Israel are distracted and not able to finally mourn the victims properly and asking the important question why did this happen in the first place and who needs to take full responsibility for it.

So Iran trapped the Israeli PM who thought he could control Trump and the narrative and they got completely outplayed by the Iranians.

Iran managed to get Bibi the Zelensky treatment and now the US President is publicly humiliating the Israeli PM into submission by letting trump ramble publicly about how weak, insane and isolated Bibi is.

So either Bibi becomes Trump's bitch and misses all of his war goals which will get him eaten alive by the Israelis asking themselves why they all suffered through this? Or he keeps whatever dignity is left in that old meat bag and can kiss his freedom and legacy goodbye.

Oh and lets not forget the US lost this war using AI. Which speaks a lot against using the technology in a military context. It produced a lot of noise / kills which did not translate into a better strategic outcome, more control or in the end winning the war.

[lorecore]

> Hamas, and everyone who participated deserves to be hunted and killed with the same brutality they murdered and raped elderly and children with

This never happened. There were no rapes, no elderly nor children were raped. Please do not spread false information.

[Jamesbeam]

It did happen and it's important to not deny that it happened.

I will and did call out IDF war crimes before as well.

There is !!overwhelming!! eye witness account and confirmation by internationally recognized bodies of the monstrosities the Hamas cowards did to their victims.

I will not cite the dozens of Israeli reports because we both know even first responders from ZAKA lied. But there were multiple independent investigations coming to the same conclusion.

https://press.un.org/en/2024/sc15621.doc.htm

https://www.un.org/sexualviolenceinconflict/wp-content/uploa...

https://documents.un.org/doc/undoc/gen/n25/108/72/pdf/n25108...

[lorecore]

It didn't happen and there's not a single verified report of rape committed by Hamas in any of these links. It's actually shameful that they make these broad accusations with no proof cited. There is also absolutely no accusation of Hamas raping babies or the elderly. Yes women were killed; a tiny, tiny fraction compared to the number of Palestinian women killed by Zionists prior to Oct 7th. Hamas are resistance and resistance isn't going to be pretty, but it is justified and it's nothing compared to Nakba and the 75 year occupation and genocide of Palestine.

[Jamesbeam]

You're wrong.

And a Israeli life is not worth more, or less, than a Palestinian life.

Reading that you compare victim numbers to justify the Oct 7th atrocities as resistance effort in your personal believe system makes me genuinely sad.

It will never be justified to kill civilians, be it Palestinians or Israelis, Russians or Ukrainians or Iranians and US Americans.

May Allah open your eyes and your heart, so that you can see and accept the truth.

[lorecore]

I'm an atheist in the US, my eyes are open to facts, well documented history and common sense. You simply cannot ethnically cleanse people off their own land and expect them to not fight back.

[ocodo]

Make sure to cite the Hannibal Directive.