[skybrian]

Maybe we could find common ground in hating the AI gold rush/arms race? If people weren't in such a huge hurry to build it out as fast as possible, maybe there would be more time to figure out how do things right?

Seen from that perspective, adding friction (for example, not releasing Mythos widely and suspending Fable for a while) is not so bad. If the bubble collapsed then that would also give us more time.

[Quarrelsome]

I don't think that would stop everyone hating it. Its the bitter lesson imho.

[thewebguyd]

> Maybe we could find common ground in hating the AI gold rush/arms race?

I think this is, for the most part, the ground on which AI hate is founded on, no?

Outside of the artist case, which I sympathize with, the real issue isn't the technology itself, its the attitudes and business practices around it.

I don't hate AI. But I do hate that OpenAI effectively cornered the dram market on a scale close to what the hunt brothers did to silver, ruining personal computing as being an accessible thing. I do hate the incessant push to put a chatbot into everything, even places where a chatbot is not even remotely useful. I hate the SaaS pricing increases going on across the board as they bundle the AI into base plans as justification for raising prices, offering no option to buy without AI at the old price. I hate ridiculous tone and fear mongering coming out of places like Anthropic, playing on people's fears of a big existential crisis as a marketing ploy. I can go on and on.

Point is, yeah, the tech itself is not the problem. The culture the arms race/gold rush has created is a huge problem, especially when listening to non-technical people buy the hype and talk like this is some crazy magical machine god in a black box. It gets incredibly exhausting trying to be the adult in the room when it comes to AI discussions in the workplace.

[ryandrake]

I just hate how AI has sucked the oxygen out of every room that other technologies once occupied. There was once a great diversity of computing things you could be interested in, use to make your work productive and enjoyable, and make into a large part of your career. Now it's just "use AI" everywhere.

I got into computers because I like computers and programming. Not whatever the fuck this is.

[runarberg]

No you don’t get to do that. You don’t get to push us to the edge and then hope we will forgive everything if you allow us one step away from the edge. It doesn’t work like that. We were pushed to the edge in a game we did not want to play. For that I get to hate you and your stupid games, and there is nothing you can change to fix that. Damage is done and you just have to live with it.