[greenie_beans]

yeah for sure and i didn't say that isn't a cost. i said it's a small part of the cost, almost negligible compared to the cost to actually build

[antisthenes]

> i said it's a small part of the cost, almost negligible compared to the cost to actually build

Actually building is the same as building to regulations. Regulations make it more expensive. You can't just hand-wave separate them.

[epistasis]

Is 10% negligible? 20%? How have you quantified this?

[danaris]

Ah, yes, that mythical "cost to actually build."

As in, the cost to build things in ways that completely ignore regulations. Regulations about building materials that won't collapse, and won't catch fire, and won't give everyone living there cancer. Regulations about safe electrification; safe, clean, adequate water; wastewater systems that won't drown the lower floors in raw sewage.

Do you know about the Grenfell Tower disaster?

70 people died, 70 more were injured, and hundreds were left without places to live, because the builders didn't think it was important to follow regulations. So they could make an extra buck.

So tell us about what the "cost to actually build" is. Please. Just remember that cost isn't only denominated in dollars and pounds.

[greenie_beans]

idk you definitely need a lot of money to build a building, i didn't realize that was up for debate. also we are not talking about code regulations, we're talking about local regulations