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by freedomben 7 days ago
More of a meta comment, but I really wish anthropic would say something about their plans for Fable. We're all just kind of left here floating and aimless, with no idea of what to expect
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They're kind of at the mercy of the US government on this, and the government seems to have them in the position you describe.
Agreed, though it sounds like they could add KYC stuff and restore access for US citizens. I utterly hate that we're at that point and I think it's ludicrous for privacy and just common sense, but it would be nice to know if that's their plan or not for example. Or if their plan is to just wait for the government to decide on something, or if they're planning to sue, or whatever.
> though it sounds like they could add KYC stuff and restore access for US citizens

I suspect so, I just got an email yesterday from Anthropic on their privacy policy update and they added:

> As part of our measures to keep our services safe and secure we may ask you to verify your age or identity, and we've described what we collect and how.

So yeah, ID verification is coming unfortunately. I wonder how that's going to work for team/business/enterprise plans? Is every individual corporate user going to have to submit their ID? How do they handle staying in compliance with the law with credential sharing that can happen within the company from the same IP address?

It's so great that the US is against AI regulation and gives corporations freedom to innovate /s
yep, and while Anthropic is now spending their time dealing with regulation, the Chinese models have some time to catch up.

I do wonder though, when those models are "mythos class" (whatever that means), will China do the same thing restricting it from export? If they get a model that's better than US companies, I fully expect them to stop open sourcing them for the world (but I hope I'm wrong about that).

China is benefiting a lot from releasing the models open-source and those benefits immediately end if they start doing closed-source releases. It would be very short-sighted
some of us knew the cloud was unreliable and chose a better path.
Well I would say you just chose ANOTHER sensible path with tradeoffs just like frontier API/subscriptions. Yes you get 100% control, cheaper inference, not having to stare at status.claude.com for like 2 hours per week, complete privacy (assuming local hosting or self hosting on servers).

But, you can’t get Fable level performance. OSS has reliably trailed the frontier by like 4-7 months for years now

Exactly, and insert meme "why not both?" I run local models for plenty of things, but for work there's a lot of complexity and Fable handled it so much better than any open model has so far. It's not really a choice for some domains currently.
The US Government has demanded a solution to the Halting Problem squared and by George (Washington) these tinpot facsists are going to get what they demand.

Hard to imagine where things go from here. GLM-5.3 will be released some day, with Fable class capabilities, and the (MAGA) US government will still be faffing around in their alt-reality cinematic bullshitiverse.