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by JumpCrisscross 3 days ago
Aggressive deployment of eminent domain and exemption from CEPA and all the other “think of the children” NIMBY rules.
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I understand housing construction, but why would a NIMBY be against metro construction? Being close to a metro station means real estate prices skyrocket and that's what NIMBYs are after.
Have you not met Americans? The very first thing 95% of Americans will say if you propose public transport closer to their house is that you are bringing crime. Also if the transit comes close then someone might build condos or apartments near it! Oh the horror!

I had a lady parade around my neighborhood handing out fliers saying that extending the bus stop to our neighborhood was going to bring rapists and pedophiles into the neighborhood. I thought she was an odd one out and insane so I made a joke about it at a neighborhood event a few weeks later.

Turns out, I was the odd one out…

Sounds like, solution is "company towns" where everything is built by giant mega-corporation, completely greenfield, and nothing is sold - just rented out.
Plenty of those exist in the US too, with public transit. The people complaining about NIMBYs can live there, but they don't. They're more popular among younger people without kids.
So perhaps there is no problem there? People can live in places like that and build wealth by investing it stocks (it beats real estate anyway).
I agree, home ownership is overrated as an investment. It's not bad but not necessary.
* Disruption while it is being built

* Fear that a metro will bring in "undesirables" (i.e. poor / lower-class people)

* Concerns about noise (whether real or imagined)

* Some people just hate change

The "undesirables" they're concerned about are robbers, teenage gangs, or people on drugs who loiter around train stations. The lower-class people don't want to be around them either.
In metropolitan areas, people want to be close but not too close to train/metro stations or railroad/tunnels. 5-10 minute walk is ideal. Anything closer, people have vibration/noise and crowd/security concerns.

In US suburbs, a lot of people are going to drive even if they live next to a train station. So there’s no convenience or property value benefits. To them, they only see downsides.

Living directly in view of a metro entrance within the inner city will be have noise from people using it, but one minute walk away is considered perfect in Europe.

Many people who visit me for the first time comment on this.

On the very quietest summer night, when there's no ventilation systems running etc, I can sometimes hear an occasional dum-dum, dum-dum when I lie in bed. The tunnel is directly under the building.

In suburbia closer is also better, but away from the track is better than along the track of it's above ground.

The idea of security concerns sounds ridiculous to me.

False. I live in Madrid and being near a metro station a. Has no issues (for almost all stations) and b. is considered highly desirable. 10 minute walk is considered a lot (mine is 5, to either of the two nearby stations - at 10-12 minutes I can walk to four stations). These are genuine underground metro. They're deep and vibrations are mostly not an issue.

The article paints a somewhat biased view of the construction process. It gives too much credit to Gallardo and the pp and conveniently ignored the serious issues in the sam Fernando de Henares área created by too rapid construction that ignored environmental and design issues in the Sandy soil near the Jarama river. Several hundred apartments have been condemned because of it and a whole neighborhood affected ...

But it is the best metro I've seen in Europe or north america. Most usable and cheapest to use.

> vibration/noise

That’s not true of most modern metro lines that are generally bored and not cut and covered.

Bored metro lines create no noise on the surface and are preferred nowadays because there is barely any constraint on the routes you can create.

Cut and covered are only used when creating whole new districts.

Surely you'd be _more_ secure near a station as there are more "eyes on the street" near an activity hub than tucked away in an isolated suburban node