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by seabird 41 days ago
This argument sucks and there’s no point making excuses for Microsoft when we know full well that they can ship updates without constant severe defects. Somebody isn’t a power user just because they use their computer for more than watching YouTube and light web browsing. The type of shit that is being broken on a month to month basis now would have been scandalous in past versions of Windows.

That being said, we’re never going back to what we had in the past. Fixing it would be nasty business.
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phendrenad2 41 days ago
> we know full well that they can ship updates without constant severe defects

How do you know that? I guess you don't work for a big company. Incompetence is the norm, not the exception.

> Somebody isn’t a power user just because they use their computer for more than watching YouTube and light web browsing

Strawman argument. I didn't say that. I said that the author is a poweruser, and the author is doing a lot more than "watching YouTube and light web browsing".

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seabird 41 days ago
> How do you know that?

Because I started giving a shit about it functioning properly starting with Windows XP and have been using the product for basically as long as I can remember. I’m not saying they’ve never had stinkers but you’re being obtuse if you actually don’t notice how extreme the bugs have gotten for basic tasks.

As an aside, I’ve basically only worked for large companies. Incompetence being common doesn’t mean everything is hopelessly terrible.

> the author is a power user

Installing routine updates isn’t power user activity. It’s actually mandatory and the system constantly nags you if you don’t do it. Installing an image viewer isn’t power user activity. If you seriously believe that’s the case you have a rotten view of the user and we are never going to see eye to eye on this. I genuinely hope you don’t manage or design software.

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phendrenad2 41 days ago
I feel that you're twisting my words or simply misunderstanding them, and it's leading to personal attacks from you so I won't continue.
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solid_fuel 41 days ago
Based on your constantly shifting positions and extreme defensiveness, it's pretty clear that you're not arguing in good faith, here. So I agree that it is best if you don't continue.
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phendrenad2 40 days ago
Sheesh, how did we get to this point? This is actually disturbing. Well, I guess I'll have to work on my main point a bit more so it doesn't spiral out of controll like this next time!
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