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by eranation 44 days ago
Is this surprising to anyone? I thought that was a given. I'm getting de-facto unlimited use of a model more expensive than Opus 4.8 for $20 a month.
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I feel like I have a different $20 plan than everyone else. I have no problem hitting my 5 hour and weekly limits. Don’t get me wrong, it’s a great deal compared to API pricing, but it’s a far cry from “unlimited”.
I get about 20 minutes of work from my 5h limit with the $20 plan. It wouldn't bother me as much if codex would continue after the token bucket refills instead of waiting for me to show up and tell it to continue. I don't jump to the $100 plan because I would be in the exact same situation.
Harness matters in this. Using the Codex sub with Hermes eats tokens like nothing. Using it with Pi is much less but you don’t get the long term memory. When you were able to use the Claude subscription with Pi, I barely hit the 5hr limit. When they stopped allowing that, CC harness just chews thru tokens.
Interesting. I'm mostly using Claude, so perhaps I'm not nearing the limits, but I do use Codex (for coding and reviews occasionally) and use chatgpt for second opinion many times, including "pro" research. Never got to my limits. But again, not my main go to tool.
> de-facto unlimited (...) for $20 a month

Would love to hear some details on that one...

Or was that a typo and you meant the $200/mo plan instead maybe? That one I could believe, assuming no or frugal subagent use that is.

Copying my other reply.

> Interesting. I'm mostly using Claude, so perhaps I'm not nearing the limits, but I do use Codex (for coding and reviews occasionally) and use chatgpt for second opinion many times, including "pro" research. Never got to my limits. But again, not my main go to tool.

I’ve hit the limit on Codex/ChatGPT one time on the $20 subscription since it came out, when I accidentally left the thinking limit on very high all day. I still could have resumed using it just 2 hours later.