[wredcoll]

> If your starting talking point is that half the country is irrational or detached from reality you've already abandoned the work of building consensus. We can keep doing the "Jon Stewart" thing and scoring points by calling the other side idiots, or we can grow up, act like adults, and do the much harder work of convincing people.

THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH SCIENCE.

The science is doing research and writing reports about what they've found. Which is getting defunded and denied and destroyed.

Is it now partisan to say "I'm in favor of doing research into how earth's climate is changing and what if anything is causing it"??

[_DeadFred_]

You are 100% correct. The (horrible) abandoning of funding for these needed science projects is not science, but politics. My entire point. We need to try and bring these people back to reality not using science but persuasion/being politically intelligent in our speech with them, not dumb destructive (but feels good for a minute) Jon Stewart style belittling.

[hackyhacky]

Do you honestly believe the Trump administration will set aside their anti-vaccine vengeance tour and anti-woke activism because someone talks to them persuasively??

You can't use logic to get someone out of a position they didn't logic themselves into.