Hacker News new | ask | show | jobs
by extr 6 days ago
I mean obviously they're correct but also the complaints of the administration aren't totally without basis.

- They're obviously being targeted politically because they refuse to kiss the ring, vibes, whatever you want to call it.

- They're also justifiably being scrutinized because they just spent like 3 months telling everyone that Mythos is a nuclear bomb and telling the government to fuck off as they drip fed access to a bunch of random corporations.

3 comments

Yes. It's true that the pretext is not entirely without merit. But it's also true that it's a pretext.

But in cases like this, the pretext shouldn't be taken too seriously. Because they would have just found another one. It isn't actually particularly important that it is plausible, it's more like a happy coincidence.

The amount of self owning that is happening to AI companies is crazy.

I don't understand why their marketing department/execs can't see the conflict between claiming AI is going to take all jobs, that the model is super dangerous and AI hate among the general public, increased governmental oversight.

Anthropic is guilty of the latter but the former applies to most of these AI companies.

As far as I can tell, much of Anthropic genuinely believes that someone will build an AI in the next 3-20 years that's significantly smarter than any human alive. Sounds wild, but a lot of their people have been saying this since 2018 or even earlier. I think they're true believers. Furthermore, they believe that building such an AI would be dangerous.

So their plan is:

1. We can't stop other people from building something dangerous.

2. But we can get there first.

3. If we build it, it has maybe a 15% chance of killing everyone alive. (I think that's a number I've seen Dario use before, but I may be wrong.) If OpenAI or China build it, the odds would be worse.

Obviously, if Anthropic is actually correct about (1) and (3), then nobody should allowed to build frontier AI.

People find it really hard to believe that (a) anyone believes in the possibility of dangerous AI in our lifetimes, and (b) that someone could believe what Anthropic seems to believe and then still go ahead and gamble with everyone's lives anyway.

To me they are genuinely trying to walk a tough line - they legitimately believe that they need to warn the public and make a lot of noise so society can try to adapt to this technology. OTOH no adaption (good or bad) can take place if the models themselves are so restricted as to be inaccessible, or if the powers that be don't understand it well enough to put the right policy/laws in place.
Ah yes, giving cybersecurity a 3 month advance is such a horrible thing to do!! Bad anthropic
I think they were totally correct in spirit. But RE: details about them giving access to an SK corp with possible Chinese ties. Of course that raises eyebrows in the USG, justifiably. Sloppy work from Anthropic.
No this is a pretext, nobody who is following the matter of their feud with Hegseth. Trump tweeted they’ll regret it. Textbook retaliation
https://freefable.org/

This has some insight in my many cyber security professionals want Fable/Mythos open.