[LightBug1]

Who said the UK is going to ban VPN?

Genuine question. That's news to me and I'm here.

[tentacleuno]

The "Technology Secretary" is actively investigating it[0].

[0]: https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/new-vpn-...

[arbol]

When they realise their social media ban for children doesn't work

[jasonvorhe]

They said so. "Nothing is off the table" was the quote, iirc.

[domh]

Apologies for the youtube shorts link, but Liz Kendall was on LBC yesterday talking about VPNs:

https://youtube.com/shorts/WvHl3G6KojI

I believe they're "doing research" into it, which basically means they don't understand how any of it works.

[subscribed]

https://stateofsurveillance.org/articles/government/uk-lords...

It mostly happened already and it's in motion.

[ravenical]

https://xcancel.com/BBCBreakfast/status/2066788360606138759

[iAMkenough]

Think of the children that will bypass all of the "protections" recently adopted by the UK.

[gonzalohm]

How would they even do that? A VPN is just a remote machine. Anything can be a VPN

[Magnusmaster]

Probably by forcing VPNs to only allow approved operating systems to connect to the Internet via hardware attestation, then those operating systems will only allow users to install signed apps, and only government-approved VPNs will be allowed.

[ifwinterco]

And some including mullvad already accept payment in crypto, there will always be some dodgy VPN company in some dodgy jurisdiction that will take your BTC in exchange for an account.

I don’t think that will stop them trying though

[Natfan]

mullvad would accept a cash envelope, i don't see how a government will stop that

[tryauuum]

Like in Russia

    - drop wireguard / OpenVPN packets crossing the country border
    - analyze https traffic to detect traffic patterns not matching https fully and block such connections

[Borealid]

The state of the art, "xray-reality", is not blockable. It's a legit tls connection with data smuggled inside it.

[tryauuum]

Are you taking from the experience that this is not blockeable in Russia?

EDIT: I might be confusing vless/xray/reality but seems like there are no problems to block it based on ip reputation + tls fingerprint + amount of connections https://habr.com/ru/articles/1044396/

Of course this would block some valid websites but when has government cared about that

[Borealid]

The IPs are Cloudflare, the TLS fingerprint is uTLS Chrome, and the number of connections with xhttp is the same as your normal browsing.

If you are willing to block browsing all ordinary web sites fronted with a CDN, then yes you can block reality/xhttp. You cannot, however, differentially block it via any of the three things you mentioned.

[frollogaston]

They can make it impractical for most people by repeatedly banning VPNs by IP address. Users have to pay upfront to figure out if their chosen VPN even works, then it could still break later.