[reverius42]

> took an enormous amount of hand holding

There's a big difference between "not writing any code by hand" (which still might involve lots of non-manual-coding effort!), and "vibecoding", and as I understand this thread was about the former.

edit: yes, I'm a software developer, and if I have a change in mind larger than 2 lines I've been using Claude Code (with English input) rather than a text editor to do it, since about January.

[SpicyLemonZest]

Can't speak for everyone involved in this thread, but your workflow sounds identical to mine and that's what I was intending to describe. I agree there's a different thing sometimes called "vibecoding" which doesn't work well for software that has to be even mildly robust.

[reverius42]

Right? Like the tool is the same (Claude Code, in my case, but there are many like it these days) but the operation of it is totally different:

"Write a function that will <do a thing the code does in 3 places>, put it in utils, and refactor the 3 locations that need to do that thing to use that function instead." (and then hundreds more prompts like that)

vs.

"Write an app that lets you trade crypto"

Just totally different activities.