[Gigachad]

I hate how common it's become for companies to force you to install things on your personal phone. Even worse is some of them demand you install a MDM profile on your personal phone which feels 1000% over the line of reasonable.

[dlenski]

I've just refused to install such things on my phone.

You want me to have email and teams/slack on my phone? Sorry, I won't install the spyware. Want to pay for me to have a second phone with it? Okay. No? Well then, I just won't have email on my phone.

[Gigachad]

Sure if you are in a strong stable position in life you can do that. The average person doesn’t want to rock the boat and cause troubles in their life so they install the invasive mdm profile.

It needs to be made illegal imo. The company should provide you a device if you need one for the job.

[p2detar]

> invasive mdm profile

What do you think is invasive in an MDM profile? It's just a channel to push data to your phone. Your information outside the work container stays private. Even inside the work container nobody can actually fetch any data from those apps.

I do agree with you though - a company must provide phones to their employees, not force them to enroll into their MDM services. The latter should be only for exceptional cases, e.g., gain temporarily access to corporate VPN, WiFi, etc., on your private device.

[binarin]

My company MDM doesn't consider GrapheneOS good enough to give me access to email/calendar - impasse?

[pferde]

"I would love to, but I do not have a compatible phone. I cannot afford it."

[notme43]

Spyware aside - I think about data breaches, even if my phone is "secure/compliant".

Scenario: Your account gets compromised somehow. It's signed in to your personal phone. Company data gets leaked or ransomed.

Your phone and its contents are now evidence.