[dblohm7]

Yak shaving is only fun when you don't have managers who don't care about the circumstances breathing down your neck.

[jeltz]

That is true for software engineering in general. If you have a manager like that nothing is fun. And the products you build are likely to be bad.

[kccqzy]

Better yet, find a manager like my own manager who spent a literal quarter yak shaving!