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by Hizonner 1 hour ago
> These laws exist because social media is extremely damaging to children,

These laws exist because people will believe any nonsense if they see it repeated enough times in news headlines.

"Social media", as presently incarnated, depending on what definition you choose, may be somewhat damaging to some people, including some children. That does not justify ghettoizing all children.

It also doesn't justify creating (yet another) pervasive tracking infrastructure for both children and adults, but that's the part everybody alway harps on. Cutting off teenagers from society as a whole? Nobody's willing to say that's bad.

Well, it's bad. It's especially bad for the ones who are getting the least support at home.

> destroying their attention,

Maybe. Strongest among the claims. Applies to adults, too; there's no sign that adults are one tiny bit more resistant. Best addressed by structural changes to the platforms.

> exposing them to online bullying and extortion,

Occasionally happens. Occasionally happens offline, too. And in online venues that aren't "social media" unless you have an insanely broad definition. One does not lock people in a vault because of that.

> and showing them horrific and traumatic content.

Oh, get a damned grip. You see a picture. Which you probably sought out. It won't kill you. If you're so sensitive that it really gets to you for the long term, your problem is your capacity for "trauma". Something else will "traumatize" you up to whatever that capacity is.

> Can anyone suggest a better way of protecting kids, other than age verification?

Restructure the platforms. For everyone.

> In a trade off between child protection and online freedom child protection will win.

Well, yes, when the "tradeoff" is being made by hysterical idiots. Which admittedly is what tends to happen.

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If you are unable to empathise with people who support the ban and dismiss them (and me) as idiots then your political action is unlikely to be successful.

Every dad I know who works in tech supports some kind of restriction on social media/smartphones for kids. The argument is how to do it, not whether we should.

If the price of privacy is children, damn the children. We're having fewer (nowhere near few enough, but fewer) of them anyway, they should not be used as a reason to restrict everyone else. Especially as they become that everyone else after a few short years.
Speaking only for myself: worked in tech for 2+ decades. Teen kids. Don't support any kind of ban whatsoever. My job is to teach my kids about the world and innoculate them against the evil. They are going to be adults before long, and this is their time to learn. Bans don't help them learn, education does.
You are apparently "unable to empathize" with the people whose actions you are trying to restrict by force. Why should anybody empathize with you?