[feurio]

Article is doing a lot of supposing:

"To enforce it, platforms must age-check their users. In practice that means anyone opening a new account will likely have to prove they're over 16 by uploading an ID or passing a facial age scan."

> likely

It could, of course, use a double-anonymous system like the French one.

Probably not, but I'd rather that they didn't state their guess as fact in the title.

[choo-t]

> It could, of course, use a double-anonymous system like the French one.

Which isn't really anonymous or privacy preserving, despite it's funny name : https://broken-by-design.fr/posts/proto-authz-porn/

[feurio]

"like"

It's not beyond the wit of humankind to build a working system.

[pmg101]

I am so tired of everyone assuming the worst possible implementation of age verification.

Whatever happened to steel manning? It's supposed to be in the fabric of HN. Curious enquiry.

Is it nice children are exposed to dreadful things? No. Could we, with tech, come up with a way to improve things? Probably! Let's discuss and think about how!

[feurio]

This.

Smart people could apply their skills and build a genuinely useful technology.

But seems they would rather stick their finger in their ears and pretend that it's not happening. And they will be ignored.

WHen did this learned helplessness become so in vogue?

[Hizonner]

> I am so tired of everyone assuming the worst possible implementation of age verification.

We're not assuming it. We're observing what people are in fact actually deploying.

[brzz]

Yeah, I would assume the worst from the UK government on these things.

I hadn't heard of the French double-anonymous system, though. That does sound slightly better.

[feurio]

If a site creates some opaque token representing the request, and the token is signed by the ID service with no other information disclosure that "The user that presented this is of the appropriate age" that would seem like a reasonable compromise.

Token could be signed out-of-band to obscure the interaction between the parties.