[vbezhenar]

Docker swarm is that simple solution you're looking for. But people don't need simple solutions. They want scalable solutions and Kubernetes fits this niche perfectly. You can deploy it on single server today and scale to 100 servers managed cluster tomorrow.

Just to provide a similar example. Linux system is insanely complicated. Kernel alone has thousands of options. Distos have tens of thousands of packages. Wherever you look at, everything is hard and complicated. Firewall, containers, init system, filesystem hierarchy, storage layers. One would think that some people desire simpler operating system. But everybody uses Linux despite all these complexities. Try to find OpenBSD in production, for example. It's not easy.

[mikeocool]

People think they want infinitely scalable solutions. But I think what they fail realize is that by the time they actually hit a scale where it matter they’re going to have to change so much about their infra that prematurely using the scalable solution didn’t really but them much except a bunch of headaches when they didn’t have scale.

[foobarian]

At our shop we're still cleaning up load-bearing tech debt 20 years later, a lot of which seems to have been built with an expectation "nah no way will this still be running next year"

[wlonkly]

Kubernetes zeitgest aside, the naming confusion between the old and new things called Docker Swarm doomed the new one.