[jjav]

> Let's say your overall rate is $0.50/kWh

It's way higher than that with PG&E.

My PG&E bill tends to be around $500/mo and I run basically nothing out of the basics. Never turn on the A/C. Tiny house, normal usage of fridge, lights and the usual househould gadgets like washer/dryer. Near the coast so climate is cool, if we lived in the hot areas and had to run A/C I imagine it would be double at least.

The profound corruption of PG&E is an existential risk to California and Silicon Valley.

[plorkyeran]

The top-end rate with PG&E is not way higher than $0.50/kWh. If you're paying $500/month with no AC and no homelab or whatever then you have something else sucking up vast amounts of power and you should spend some time with a killawatt measuring your appliances.

[jjav]

> The top-end rate with PG&E is not way higher than $0.50/kWh.

This is from a recent PG&E bill from my house:

Peak pricing: 0.48575 delivery + 0.14920 generation = $0.635 kWh

So yes that's pretty much higher than $0.50 kWh

It seems to have gone down a bit this year though. These are the numbers from 2024:

Peak pricing: 0.53 + 0.183 = $0.71 kWh

Note that peak is 4pm to midnight, so basically all the electricity-using hours one usually would be at home if working regular hours at the office (like we do). Off-peak is a bit cheaper but we're either sleeping or out of the house so not very helpful.

[3eb7988a1663]

A kWh measurement would be handy. List rates for PG&E are (at the high end) ~$0.50/kWh. Sure with fees and such, I can see it higher, but throwing out a real number would be useful for the conversation on what goes into a $500 bill. There are also tiers if you are a higher consumer - all of which is hard to deduce with just a vague total bill value.