[oh_my_goodness]

Without jobs, and after our savings run out, we will be homeless people. Then, after that, we can try to bargain for ... whatever homeless people get in this society. It doesn't look like much to me.

Call it 'basic income' if that helps.

[rogerrogerr]

If I’m one of the six people who ends up with all the money and controlling all the robots, why do I want your 3 bed 2 bath house in Tennessee? Trying to take it from you will only make you riot.

It’s not exactly a bright outlook, but I do think we in the west are likely to be not-worse, on average, than we are now.

Of course, your average HN denizen is much better off than average. I think there’s room for our standard of living to fall precipitously.

[whatever1]

You will need electricity, water you will be producing waste etc. in your Tennessee house. Why would someone who owns all of the power and resources share with you?

Really I don’t see any playable alternative other than near complete annihilation of human race. It’s very similar to a nuclear apocalypse. Very few get to survive.

[qsera]

>Why would someone who owns all of the power and resources share with you?

Ideally governments will see to it. This also assumes that governments have a much larger army of robots than any private individual. Just like how governments makes it illegal to own firearms, it will be illegal to own certain class of robots with combat capability..

Thus governments (the people really/ideally) will see to it that everyone will be comfortable with minimum amount of work utilizing the robots.

One can dream!

[vinyl7]

With the way things are now, the corporations own the government. The 'government' is not some sort of impartial mediator that people have been lead to believe it is

[qsera]

The government at least has to maintain the appearance.

[asdff]

No it doesn't. Propagandize the population sufficiently and they won't accept the reality in front of them.

[oh_my_goodness]

It needs votes. It is better than dealing directly with the corporations, which don't need votes.

[tennfown]

The “government” is a collection of dementia patients and pedophiles.

[pastel8739]

Realistically though, if there are some humans left, they are going to want to live in a society. Humans are fundamentally social and I think the people in charge would eventually realize this. But then again rich people are not normal, so maybe not

[pixl97]

>they are going to want to live in a society.

Now stop and imagine what kind of society the rich people you know and hear of would want to live in?

Do they want a bunch of poors around? Of course not. Do they want to give the money so they are not poor? Of course not. Would many of them just 'erase' said poor people. History says yes.

Do they want a bunch of dumb people around? Of course not. Do they want to give them education so they are not dumb? Of course not. Would many of them just 'erase' said dumb people. History says yes.

Do they want a bunch of ugly people around? Of course not. Do they want to give them plastic surgery, genetic manipulation so they are not ugly? Of course not. Would many of them 'erase' said ugly people. History says yes.

There are a number of people that already think that the Earths population should be culled back to a few million people. Giving people that believe this power seems to be a really good way to cause a genocide.

[8note]

so you can tear it down?

them rioting is a benefit, so you can justify sending in occupation forces to get rid of some

this is well practiced stuff in the west bank

[oh_my_goodness]

Bruh. This has nothing to do with like Elon coming and taking the house away. This is just plain old reality.

Without income or savings, people can't afford houses. How would they pay the property taxes? Can't maintain the house. The house gets repossessed or sold for taxes. This happens all the time. Nobody swoops in and saves those people.

Also, hang on. Will we be "not worse" or will our standard of living "fall precipitously"? Those feel different.

[rogerrogerr]

> The house gets repossessed or sold for taxes

Sold to whom? Isn’t the argument that no one will have money? There are approximately as many houses in the US as there are households. We are not going to see all the houses empty and all the households homeless. Maybe the people who are currently buying at a time when home values are historically high will be shafted. But those houses will not end up empty.

> Will we be "not worse" or will our standard of living "fall precipitously"? Those feel different.

Reading comprehension. These are the two relevant statements - speaking of the average:

> we in the west are likely to be not-worse, on average, than we are now.

and speaking of HN denizens:

> average HN denizen is much better off than average. I think there’s room for our standard of living to fall precipitously.

[oh_my_goodness]

>We are not going to see all the houses empty and all the households homeless.

... do you remember 2008? Or no? That was a tiny blip.