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by krembo 8 hours ago
It's easy to be very "moral" from far far away, yet I doubt you'd act differently if you were in Israel's shoes
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The fact we are not in Israel's shoes is the best hope for a negotiated durable peace. I cannot find a peace deal in the 20th century that did not have the studious support of a neutral third-party.
There are many Israelis who conclude that their country is conducting a genocide in gaza and ask for it to stop [1]. Conversely, there are people who are "far far away", who have access to the same information as everybody else and don't see any wrong doing, and support the destruction of Gaza and its inhabitants. I have a hard time understanding how anyone can think this is right, or maybe they don't know or don't believe what is actually taking place.

[1] https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2025/07/israel-opt-is...

What happens in Gaza is first and foremost Hamas to blame, thus I hold zero empathy for the Gaza people, and second, nonetheless important, does not withstand any definition of the term "genocide". If Israel wanted to commit a genocide they would finish the job within a week, the fact that there are so many surgical operations and methods like "knock on the roof" shows Israel are doing their best efforts to avoid civilian casualties. Moreover, as the Palestinians are separated between Judea and Samaria and the Gaza strip, while the first are quiet and living in prosperity while the later are hostages of Hamas, it is a very weird way from Israel's point of view to make what you call genocide.
> Israel are doing their best efforts to avoid civilian casualties.

According to wikipedia, there have been 80K people killed in Gaza, 80% are civilians, 30% are children.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Gaza_war

> it is a very weird way from Israel's point of view to make what you call genocide.

It's not me who calls that a genocide. That's becoming the consensus on how it's being called outside of Israel.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_genocide

israel has been documented countless times directly targeting civilians, including reporters, sniping women, children, sexual assault, the list goes on. It's a quick search away to see a very, very long list of war crimes.

https://www.reddit.com/r/israelexposed/