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by weinzierl 11 days ago
What use is cabin luggage when for the cheaper tickets you are inevitably pressured to check it?

This happens to me most of the time on short haul flights in Europe. They basically sell higher priced tickets with two items of cabin luggage and the lower price tier effectively turns into zero items.
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zamadatix 11 days ago
In the worst case cabin luggage still just becomes a cheaper checked bag (due to the size limits) for the trip.
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JumpCrisscross 11 days ago
> when for the cheaper tickets you are inevitably pressured to check it?

FTFA: “Passengers will now be entitled to both a free personal item measuring 40cm by 30cm by 15cm and a small wheeled item with a maximum total dimension of 100cm and a weight of up to 7kg.”

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zamadatix 11 days ago
GP is talking about how common it is for the "small wheeled item with a maximum total dimension of 100cm and a weight of up to 7kg" (i.e. cabin luggage) to be force checked at the gate.
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JumpCrisscross 11 days ago
> GP is talking about how common it is

Sure. This legislation directly addresses that. It creates a right where there previously wasn't one. A right which solves OP's problem.

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zamadatix 11 days ago
This seems to be focused on whether a cost can be charged for providing such services (opt-out vs opt-in for a base fare), not on guaranteeing actual in-cabin storage for such bags.
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JumpCrisscross 11 days ago
> seems to be focused on whether a cost can be charged for providing such services (opt-out vs opt-in for a base fare), not on guaranteeing actual in-cabin storage for such bags

I read "entitled" as granting a right. I've tried searching for the draft legal language, but am having no luck.

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zamadatix 10 days ago
Being entitled does grant a right, it just doesn't redefine what the name of the service being offered means on its own. The second reading draft differences can be found here https://data.consilium.europa.eu/doc/document/ST-7162-2026-I... (pages 116-117) and it locks in the existing process:

> Article 11a Right to personal item and hand baggage ...

> The hand baggage may be stored either in the aircraft cabin (as carry-on baggage) or in the aircraft hold. The carrier may refuse to allow the hand baggage on board only on grounds of security connected with the weight or size of the hand baggage in relation to the characteristics of the aircraft.

Side note: Parts of the elided text even stop short of guaranteeing your personal item will actually make it to the cabin in all cases.

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