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by forsalebypwner 47 days ago
Their use of addressing by keys instead of by IPs seems to be the main differentiator. Also the support for custom transports (BLE, LoRa, Tor) which appears to be in progress and not yet fully implemented.

I love Tailscale, it's deployed on all my devices. But I might check this out for the transports part in particular.
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RationPhantoms 47 days ago
Tailscale uses MagicDNS which allows one to auto-generate a semi-memorable private hostname as well. I'm in the networking industry so I'm not seeing anything truly groundbreaking or that isn't offered elsewhere.
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rklaehn 47 days ago
It isn't meant to be groundbreaking. It is meant to be a rock solid building block that you can put into your application.

That being said, I think our use of QUIC multipath is pretty novel. If you use tailscale or a VPN, your connection (TCP or QUIC or whatever) won't immediately notice when the underlying transport changes (e.g. relay to direct or vice versa). So there will be some delays as the congestion controller learns about the underlying transport.

With the latest iroh using QUIC multipath, each path gets its own congestion controller, so switches of the underlying transport are more smooth.

Also, multipath allows us to treat custom transports as just additional paths.

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danudey 47 days ago
The pitch here appears to be that this can allow communication between services without having to add them to a tailnet or such; e.g. if you wanted to let a friend or coworker access some service on your local network without making them join a tailnet, add a public external endpoint to forward traffic, set up a VPN, etc.

IIUC you just send someone 'here is the connection information' and it just works automatically.

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forsalebypwner 47 days ago
Yeah and my understanding of Iroh wasn't quite right either, it sounds like it's positioned to be more of a library to use in code, rather than a VPN solution like Tailscale.

I love MagicDNS - A long time ago I wrote a stupid Python script to have it continually generate MagicDNS names until one of them contained a word I was looking for.

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