[noodlesUK]

This is such disappointing news. I was planning on migrating some of our workloads to hetzner specifically to take advantage of the AX162 pricing which was incredibly competitive.

Does anyone else have any suggestions for competitive pricing for this kind of thing (e.g. batch jobs)? Was this applied retrospectively to existing customers?

[jonatron]

From memory, OVH and Scaleway are similar to Hetzner

[markvdb]

Hetzner is actually somewhat reliable, and OVH is not.

[BadBadJellyBean]

I know that they had a huge oopsie with their wooden datacenter burning down but apart from that I didn't notice any problems recently.

[mhkool]

OVH is more expensive

[Aachen]

And tells you in an FAQ to go to a competitor if you want to send emails (personal or commercial does not matter). Various bugs in the ordering systems too. Domain names run smoothly (fast and cheap) once you got the payment systems dealt with but for servers it doesn't seem great

[BadBadJellyBean]

Are they though? They have their KS, SYS and RISE lines with slightly older hardware. The prices are not too bad, I think. https://www.kimsufi.com/en/

[Aldipower]

_was_

[Joel_Mckay]

>Was this applied retrospectively to existing customers

They are quite good at costs remaining predictable. However, a few years back they cut the low-end hosts 1Gbps unlimited data transfer down to a 20GiB/month cap, and wanted everyone to go full cloud/retard to fully leverage the hardware infrastructure.

If you serve large files, a CDN may have a very narrow use case where the budgets make sense. If you are already pushing 23 TiB/month, than cloud providers are usually not worth the effort. Some rent colocation rack space. =3

[noodlesUK]

> If you serve large files, a CDN may have a very narrow use case where the budgets make sense. If you are already pushing 23 TiB/month, than cloud providers are usually not work the effort. Some rent colocation rack space. =3

Unfortunately I'm needing to run a lot of batch compute jobs (for which the hyperscalers are just insanely expensive - even to have a machine that outclasses a nice laptop becomes silly very rapidly)

I'm considering buying some machines and racking them in a colo but it feels like buying right now is also insane because of current pricing.

[Joel_Mckay]

>but it feels like buying right now is also insane because of current pricing.

Indeed, never buy equipment unless all other choices were explored.

Note, we may be waiting till 2029 for GPU/ddr7/flash prices to fully normalize. =3

[jonatron]

Have you looked at used servers from eBay / bargain hardware / ETB tech etc?

[noodlesUK]

I have but it seems to me that the stuff that's actually particularly well priced is really old (2016-2018ish). Even a single DIMM of used 32G DDR4 from ETB is now > 250GBP. The used market is also blown to pieces because of the price pressure.

[jonatron]

Yeah it doesn't look good. Idk your requirements but this is one of the better deals I could find https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/126986603191 . For used eBay servers it's always worth making an offer rather than Buy it Now.