[ForHackernews]

> Anthropic and Claude remains very popular among the people who use LLMs

Only because someone else is paying the bills. I use Claude Opus at work because my employer pays for the tokens and encourages me to do it.

At home, I use DeepSeek Flash. It's not as good, but it's maybe 0.7 quality for 0.001 cost.

[LaurensBER]

Same, I had Deepseek search for, download and transfer (to my Linux emulation machine) the best Dreamcast games yesterday.

GPT refused to do so (citing that it's illegal even though I own the games). Deepseek did a wonderful job for 7 cents.

At work I use Opus because, why not? But I could easily switch to a less capable model if needed.

[JCTheDenthog]

>citing that it's illegal even though I own the games

In the. US at least it is actually illegal to download ISOs/roms of games, even if you own a physical copy. It's a stupid law and as a downloader (as opposed to the people hosting the files) your chances of getting into any kind of actual legal trouble are effectively 0, but it is still against the law.

[mark_l_watson]

I have a question that perhaps you or someone else here has an answer for: I enjoy using Opus via Google Antigravity (usually agy) for perhaps 90 minutes a week. For Google’s subsidized $20/month plan they seem to give out a reasonably generous amount of Claude tokens. How does this compare with Anthropic’s $20/month plan using Claude Code?

BTW, I also use DeepSeek v4 Flash very frequently: fast and so cheap it is almost free.

[everforward]

It’s really hard to translate minutes to tokens, it depends on how you’re using it.

The best answer would be to pull session stats from your harness and compare that against the limits. I think Anthropic publishes the limits of each plan.

If you’re using a pretty stock harness and not doing crazy multi-agent stuff with it, you’re probably fine.

My girlfriend built a whole (but simple) React app with it and only hit the limits of the $20 plan once. In fairness, she was trying to get it to clean up a bunch of 800ish line React files at once with a vague “make it look nice” prompt that she ran a few times. I think it was just churning for like half an hour straight before she burned all her credits.

It’s probably enough if you’re not on a fully agentic development strategy, it’s plenty to have it write tests and do comments and stuff, just not enough to continually have it doing giant refactoring passes.

[trollbridge]

Anthropic's plans are based on user experience of usage, not raw token counts, so you get to run through so many conversation turns, etc. within a 5 hour usage window. (Cursor, OpenCode Go, and others are similar.)

Cursor's $20 a month plan provides a reasonable amount of Opus tokens as well.

[okdood64]

What's the speed on DeepSeek Flash? And what provider?

[ForHackernews]

Fast enough? I signed up directly with https://platform.deepseek.com/ because it was the cheapest I could find. I use both Anthropic and Deepseek models via the VS Code copilot plugin https://github.com/Vizards/deepseek-v4-for-copilot