[bushido]

Anecdotally, I think this is a much bigger cleanup than just talking to the administration.

I think there's a wider damage done which there is no coming back from. And this is for the USA, not Anthropic.

The chance that sovereignty and rules such as this could be applied to AI was a concern that a lot of people had, but the risk was unknown.

Speaking for myself, I had guessed this would happen at some point of time. I was expecting/hoping it'd be years away.

However given the events in the last few days it greatly increases my concern with building any product which can depend on an on an API which could go away for a number of my customers.

I've been experimenting with other open weight models hosted in favorable sovereign countries for a few months, but this accelerates something which was an experiment to now being a must-have.

I don't think it is going to be easy for any of the parties to repair this easily.

[daft_pink]

I think they’re going to have problems, because I’m sure they have a lot of foreign employees and it’s insane to think they now have to block them all from using their best models.

[tmaly]

Back when encryption and PGP was the hot topic, similar things happened with sovereigns.

[general1465]

I see it exactly the same, self hosted LLM will be the future. They may not be SOTA, but it is better to have a Trabant in your garage than being denied use of shared Ferrari, because somebody outside of your control had hissy fit.

[fragmede]

I like a good car analogy, but it doesn't hold up in this case. What am I going to do with a Ferrari that's durable and makes me money, the same way that Mythos/Fable can output me better code than Opus 4.x? I mean I guess I could take a picture of me in a Ferrari, and then when I show off that picture but can't produce the Ferrari, I look dumb, but Mythos generated code/artifacts are still downloadable and runnable, if you got far enough before the cut off. Judging from the quality/availability of the few days we had it, it's a shared resource anyway. The usage limits were too low to give everything to Fable to do.