Anecdotally, I think this is a much bigger cleanup than just talking to the administration.
I think there's a wider damage done which there is no coming back from. And this is for the USA, not Anthropic.
The chance that sovereignty and rules such as this could be applied to AI was a concern that a lot of people had, but the risk was unknown.
Speaking for myself, I had guessed this would happen at some point of time. I was expecting/hoping it'd be years away.
However given the events in the last few days it greatly increases my concern with building any product which can depend on an on an API which could go away for a number of my customers.
I've been experimenting with other open weight models hosted in favorable sovereign countries for a few months, but this accelerates something which was an experiment to now being a must-have.
I don't think it is going to be easy for any of the parties to repair this easily.
I think they’re going to have problems, because I’m sure they have a lot of foreign employees and it’s insane to think they now have to block them all from using their best models.
I see it exactly the same, self hosted LLM will be the future. They may not be SOTA, but it is better to have a Trabant in your garage than being denied use of shared Ferrari, because somebody outside of your control had hissy fit.
I like a good car analogy, but it doesn't hold up in this case. What am I going to do with a Ferrari that's durable and makes me money, the same way that Mythos/Fable can output me better code than Opus 4.x? I mean I guess I could take a picture of me in a Ferrari, and then when I show off that picture but can't produce the Ferrari, I look dumb, but Mythos generated code/artifacts are still downloadable and runnable, if you got far enough before the cut off. Judging from the quality/availability of the few days we had it, it's a shared resource anyway. The usage limits were too low to give everything to Fable to do.
As I understand it, ITAR regulations for export controls have just been applied to any form of Mythos.
These are overseen by U.S. Departments of State and Commerce, and forbid foreign nationals from access to any form of Mythos, either within or outside the U.S.
Only U.S. citizens and immigrants that are holders of a "green card" may now access Mythos.
It appears that Anthropic does not have internal controls to implement these restrictions in any form, so the only option was to shut Mythos down.
Penalties for ITAR violation can reach ten years in prison and a million dollars per violation. (I can post a link to those details if there is any interest.)
As long as Anthropic is a U.S. company, there is no escaping this.
> Only U.S. citizens and immigrants that are holders of a "green card" may now access Mythos.
It was my understanding that not even green card holders may access Mythos. Normally when restrictions like this are put in place, you need a exemption as a green card holder. A geen card is just a permit to live and work in the US. Its not the same as citizenship.
> Security Clearance: Green Card holders are generally prohibited from jobs that require high-level security clearances or sensitive government/military roles reserved exclusively for U.S. citizens.
That's not true. ITAR and security clearance are entirely separate regulatory regimes. For ITAR purposes, being a permanent resident is good enough. I used to work for a defense contractor, and we hired plenty of green card holders. They were not in general assigned to work that required a clearance, but plenty of defense-sensitive, ITAR-controlled work is done by green card holders.
Were those ITAR export controls chosen because they really are the most appropriate tool for this particular case, or because they could be deployed at a very short notice?
Individuals can leave, but the company cannot transfer restricted intellectual property.
Europe has extradition treaties, so the U.S. can force anyone in Europe back to the U.S. for criminal indictment who demonstrates inappropriate possession of this technology.
It's not "AI light bulbs", the point is to use smart meters for load shedding and load rearranging. Why wouldn't you want for people and companies to be able to use cheaper electricity in off-peak hours?
doesn't seem to be a political meeting, but rather a technical one. Maybe they'll review the jailbreaks and demonstrate that can be replicated in any model out there?
Yep, hard to feel bad when the whole reason they're in this mess is because they tried to introduce FYD about their own product as an argument why open models need to be banned.
After seeing headlines about the ufc fight on the White House lawn and seeing headlines about how Japanese World Cup fans clean up trash after the match I had an image of programmers doing lawn care at the White House...
i 100% thought this article was going to be about cleaning up the idiocracy festival from the past weekend. didn't even question the fact that people from anthropic would be there to help, seemed like a fitting asskiss.
That was seriously what I thought the headline is about. Anthropic flying in their employees to clean up the trash after Trumps birthday party for free to demonstrate their obedience with a good show of licking the Dear Leader's boots.
Extremely silly of course, but entirely in line with all the other news currently coming out of the US ;)
I just can't get his popularity, he isn't smart, he isn't a great speaker, his opinions on actually important stuff is often... just sad to hear, hyping up a 'bro effect and thats about it. Its like listening to that old buddy from primary school who struggled to get through high school, and now as an adult gathered some interesting opinions about the world, politics and humans that you really are not interested in.
Tons of better folks online, if somebody really has nothing better going in their short lives to listen to blahs for 3 hours, repeatedly. I guess there are worse ways to spend time though
He helped Trump win by promoting the guy right before the election, together with Theo Von. For clicks, and undeniably, money. Both are tools. One of them with a kick of a mule, still a tool.
Cheaper and less harmful to long-term and international prospects to just make a gold-plated “AI Peace Prize” award and gift it in some ceremony. Couple of hundred thousand dollars, works great. Ask Tim Apple.
I think there's a wider damage done which there is no coming back from. And this is for the USA, not Anthropic.
The chance that sovereignty and rules such as this could be applied to AI was a concern that a lot of people had, but the risk was unknown.
Speaking for myself, I had guessed this would happen at some point of time. I was expecting/hoping it'd be years away.
However given the events in the last few days it greatly increases my concern with building any product which can depend on an on an API which could go away for a number of my customers.
I've been experimenting with other open weight models hosted in favorable sovereign countries for a few months, but this accelerates something which was an experiment to now being a must-have.
I don't think it is going to be easy for any of the parties to repair this easily.