[close04]

That's what happens to things when they become status symbols. They're chased for status. Not the case for Porsche but sometimes that object ends up losing all the core value, pushing away the original fans, and rides the status wave until there's nothing left to offer.

[testfrequency]

My love for Porsche almost completely stopped as soon as I moved to the Bay Area.

[fragmede]

Why? Because you could afford one? Or because you everyone else could? If your love for them was based on other people not having one, and not for love of the machine, can you really call yourself a fan?

[cucumber3732842]

Because of the kind of other people who had them and how he felt that reflected on him.

Having a cool old project car is less cool when everyone else is some jerk who bought into it.

[testfrequency]

Note I said “almost completely”. You also decided to interpret my response as I only cared about scarcity..which is a choice.

To answer: There’s only so many times you want to strike up a friendly conversation with a driver about their lovely car, only to be met with them having no clue about their bespoke vehicle, or even worse - the pitted feeling that they are somehow superior.

Porsche drivers in most of places I’ve lived do not behave this way. You will have a better time and luck in the Bay Area chatting cars with someone who drives a Ferrari or McLaren (or a Mazda to make it clear it’s not simply value) than a Porsche owner.

As a petrol head, I’m saying it’s sad that most tech bros buy these over the top track cars and don’t know much about them besides the paint color or alcantara.

[fragmede]

then again, you what Alcantara is.

[tonyedgecombe]

>Not the case for Porsche

I'd argue it is, at least once they started making more SUV's than 911's.

[pjc50]

The Porsche SUVs deeply offend me aesthetically. The proportions are just wrong and the curve doesn't adapt across the body, so it looks like a monster truck. Far more so than things built to be that size (Land Rover and imitators).

[teruakohatu]

Wait till you see Lambo’s SUV!

[pjc50]

The Urus? It's .. actually not too bad. It's "not a Lamborghini", in that it looks completely different from the classic low wedge shape, but once you accept that there's no way to do "low wedge, but higher" and look at it on its own it looks alright. It's quite an aggressive look, "angry car face", but that feels appropriate for Lambo.

[smackeyacky]

It didn’t have to be that way but badge engineering a VW wasn’t a great idea. Then again I know nothing because they sell a ton of those things.

[fragmede]

Then again, the 911 still comes in stick shift. But not as default. They also come in electric. Every petrolhead has a different reason to hate Porsche. And Lamborghini. And Ferrari.

Porsche has one duty to its shareholders. Keep existing. They do that by selling cars.

[close04]

Maybe they're not what they used to be but they haven't lost all of the Porsche DNA. It's not all status. There are companies where the label is all that's left.

[fragmede]

Which is to say, there are companies that've gone out of business. But if it was my company, I know what I would do, to put my kids through college. But I know what I would do, to look them in the eye after college.

Just kidding, I don't have kids.