[throw93033]

> Log out of all accounts, remove 2FA keys after backing them up on paper

Seems like a lot of extra work, just to go on vacation :)

I would suggest another approach. Automate your work, that you can work from your phone. I go on multi day hiking trips, or a week long family beach holidays, without taking PTO...

Edit: I do not get negative reactions. Big part of my work is to monitor system, and answer questions. I spend less time on my phone than most social app users! I still do heavy coding in office a few times a month. And I am self employed for nit pickers.

Work does not have to be sufering, you can enjoy it!

[utopiah]

>> Log out of all accounts, remove 2FA keys after backing them up on paper [...]

>> Signed: Former workaholic.

> Seems like a lot of extra work, just to go on vacation :)

That's the point, this person and plenty others, are NOT able to "just" go and disconnect. If you can do that, wonderful for you, but please don't assume others are like you precisely when they are humble enough to clarify that they do have a problem and try to help others to overcome it.

[prmoustache]

Just not bringing the devices should be enough.

[utopiah]

I regularly advocate for offline moments so I definitely agree on the "how" ... but that's still not my point though.

What I was trying to highlight was that HOW depends on whom you are talking to. Here they just mentioned a deep behavior problem. Saying "just" or "simply" or "should" or "ought to" or anything implying it's really not that hard is probably not going to be encouraging to them.

[prmoustache]

yeah but I mean it is the same about logging out accounts or removing 2FA which is what I was really replying to.

If that person doesn't have the mental strength to do any action on their own, I totally agree that they probably need therapy first.

[kelnos]

Regarding your edit, you might be ok with going on a multi-day hiking trip or family holiday while still doing some amount of work from your phone, but many of us think that's a bad idea.

Truly disconnecting from our work is necessary for our mental health. When I'm on vacation, I want to be on vacation, which means not working.

Again, maybe you don't want to actually fully be on vacation from work. I guess that's fine; you do you. But I don't think that's healthy for most people, and regardless of health, many people do just want to completely disconnect from work for some number of days.

[Dylan16807]

You're basically saying to get a different job.

That's going to work in some situations, but it's not broadly applicable for many reasons. In particular it's way more work than the act of backing up 2FA and logging out of everything. So yeah, it makes a lot of sense for people to think that's not good advice.

[ro_sharp]

This is the ideal, but in practice you need to own the business to live this way..

[sayamqazi]

Also candy is enjoyable but 24/7 sucking on it is not.

[missingdays]

Living your life = sucking on candy?

[throw93033]

Imagine some people sleep at work... I get paid for being available, not LARPing at desk!

Much better than 2 hour daily unpaid commute at old job.