[gamblor956]

Hamas has unilaterally broken every ceasefire and peace treaty. This war started with them unilaterally breaking a peace treaty, invading, kidnapping 1000+ civilians, and raping and murdering most of them.[1]

Does this justify what Israel is doing to the West Bank? Most people would say no. On the other hand, before the invasion normal Palestinians were chanting "Death to Israel" and "Death to America" on a daily basis, and they still refuse to recognize the existence of the nation of Israel. If your counterparty doesn't agree that you have a right to exist, there's no negotiating.

[https://www.cnn.com/2026/05/12/middleeast/report-sexual-viol...]

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"kidnapping 1000+ civilians, and raping and murdering most of them" has been debunked by Haaretz, Israel's "Defense" Minister, UNs ICO, The Jerusalem Post.

Feel free to read through the receipts in this and the follow up article: https://open.substack.com/pub/realleecamp/p/people-are-learn...

I'm quite sure you'll believe quotes from the Israel military figures?

[debazel]

So I just wasted my time reading through this garbage and I can't find anything that debunks what you claimed it does? The whole thing boils down to Israel fired a lot of ammunition, therefore it was actually Israel killing all the civilians.

On top of that, the whole article is mainly sourcing from "The Electronic Intifada", which definitely seems like the most objective source for objective truth on Oct 7th.

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The devil is in the linked documents. The whole thing boils down to multiple claims primarily from the Israeli sources (press), but also public statements of the officials.

You seem to be suggesting it's all about the Hannibal Directive. It's not all.

And the thing you call "garbage" is for example the defense minister (Yoav Gallant) who was in power on Oct 7, stating in an interview in Israeli TV (Channel 12, as reported by Times Of Israel, much earlier reported by Haaretz), that Hannibal Directive has been issued and admission - from the top military figure, no less - that civilians have been killed.

Etc, etc.

You can deny facts all you want.

[sivakon]

Can you stop spreading atrocity propaganda?

The rape hoax has been debunked several times. Meantime, there is a lot of video evidence of Israelis raping Palestinians.

https://zeisquirrel.substack.com/p/rape-hoax-redux-debunking...

[kibibu]

> they still refuse to recognize the existence of the nation of Israel. If your counterparty doesn't agree that you have a right to exist, there's no negotiating.

Quick question - does Israel recognize the existence of the state of Palestine?