[fwipsy]

Anthropic has called for a coordinated pause: https://www.reuters.com/business/anthropic-says-ai-labs-need...

I characterize the culture of companies based on who works there. Anthropic is founded by people who left OpenAI because it didn't take safety seriously enough. But if AI development has to happen, they want to be the ones leading it. People who do not feel that way, including Anthropic's former head of safety, just don't work there.

Generally, corporations spending billions of dollars on lobbyists is frowned upon. I suspect individual Anthropic employees may make significant donations to AI safety politics and charities, but I don't have proof.

[whatisthiseven]

Ok, but that only benefits them.

If they actually believe this stuff is so dangerous, they should shut down their company, and use their fortune to buy up/shut down all the others.

But of course they don't actually believe that. It is just marketing hype.

You can't be out there selling doomsday devices, saying "maybe we should slow down development of bigger doomsday devices", while *still selling doomsday devices". That is just blatant hypocrisy. Eating cake and having it, too. Oxymoron.

No, they don't actually believe this. Not in a meaningful capacity.

(FWIW, I don't believe it, either. I think we should continue developing the technology).

[fwipsy]

Anthropic is valued a lot because they are building AI. If they stop building AI, they are worth zero. Then they're just activists - why don't you ask Yud how many AI companies he's bought out and shut down?

Even if they could somehow cash out their entire market cap, Google's is >4x theirs. AND if they quit, their competitors' valuations go up. AND there's nothing to stop those employees from leaving and founding new AI companies.

[estearum]

@gork what is a coordination problem and can you just like "shut down your participation" and solve them?

[fwipsy]

Yes! As long as everyone else does too.

[estearum]

Easy peasy! :)