[bubblegumcrisis]

This is why the guillotine will either be taxes or blades. It's either Bernie or Luigi. There is a sizable segment of the population that just doesn't have any empathy for society at large. "There should never be a cap to my selfishness."

You might think: I can argue with them.

No. You can't. They literally couldn't care less about you or anyone else. They do, however fear retribution.

[JumpCrisscross]

> This is why the guillotine will either be taxes or blades

There is legitimate debate around whether the French aristocracy came out of the Revolution richer than they were before.

> They do, however fear retribution

They don’t. They haven’t been targeted. Luigi potted a middle manager with a glorified title. The billionaire who owns the group is fine.

We need to raise taxes. We need new tax brackets. But pretending violence is a check on a globalized rich is just self-congratulatory fantasy. Worst case, they lose billions when they flee.

[3ffaa]

"They don’t."

When are you gonna stop acting like you are an authority on all things?

ELon has said many times he fears being taken out in a public setting, therefore he does not present himself in public.

If the world's wealthiest man says this, he is far more indicative of the ultra-wealth class than you.

[JumpCrisscross]

> ELon has said many times he fears being taken out in a public setting

Elon has said lots of things. His behavior, in this regard, reflects limited concern.

[s1artibartfast]

There is, in theory, a type of fear that makes someone comply and obey and do what you want. There's another type of fear that just makes someone hate

[bubblegumcrisis]

I don't know about this. Pre-Trump I would have agreed with you.

Post-Trump. The mask is off, and they are evil.

How many billionaires are there? I don't think we'd miss them if they were gone.

And it goes farther than this actually.

Should we have publicly executed the cigarette CEOs, and those CEOs of the drug companies who knowingly destroyed so many lives with opiates? What about the company CEOs who poison water.

Before Trump I would have said, "no." But now, "yes." They deserved it, and by not sufficiently punishing them for their crimes against humanity we sent a message to the likes of Facebook and OpenAI and the new batch of psychopaths, that there are no real consequences for their actions, no matter how base they are.

If Trump and his family does not sit in jail after he leaves office, if the democrats do not exact retribution for all he and his ilk have done, I think there will be rioting against both sides.

I don't know. Maybe I'm wrong. I actually hope I'm wrong.

But I think I'm right. And even though this post will be down-voted for referencing violence as leverage, I think these ideas are mainstream now.

[JumpCrisscross]

> don't think we'd miss them if they were gone

We wouldn’t. I’m not arguing that. I’m saying they don’t believe they are at risk. Because they aren’t. None of them have been even close to being harmed.

[bubblegumcrisis]

LOL. I realize this isn't 4chan from 2000s- but I can't tell if you are arguing that Luigi messed up by committing murder, or he messed up by offing the wrong guy.

That's hilarious. I guess. Maybe not?

[JumpCrisscross]

> if you are arguing that Luigi messed up by committing murder, or he messed up by offing the wrong guy

I’m saying it was symbolic but inconsequential to the richest and most powerful. If you’re a billionaire, Luigi didn’t show you’re at risk. He showed that the folks who work for the folks who work for you might be.

And for the record, I think what hd did is wrong. But that’s orthogonal to the question of effectiveness.

[yowlingcat]

What makes you think there will actually be a guillotine? This isn't the French Revolution era.

The alternative to your wet dream is that both Bernie and Luigi are hapless and actually incapable of altering the systems they rail against besides symbolic token gestures meant to appease the hopes of someone, anyone to serve as a messianic figurehead.

[JumpCrisscross]

> Bernie and Luigi are hapless

Bernie Sanders has de facto been in the ruling party for multiple years in his career. (As in aligned with Democrats when they controlled all branches of government.) Taxes on the rich went down each time.

Meanwhile, Luigi potter a middle manager. No billionaires harmed in his schemes.

These are hapless symbols of class warfare. That’s problematic, because we need competent leaders to channel this rage. Not another eighty-something who refuses to retire.